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I just watched this old movie called "Good Will Hunting"
It's a story about a super smart guy as written by a not very smart guy that has no idea what it's like to be smart.
It's like my Dads ideas about artistic talent. When I was teaching myself to draw he was very discouraging. He seemed to think that Michelangelo could have painted that ceiling at age seven if he wanted to.

Extraordinary abilities are learned, sure there may be flashes of insight early on but they are always based on some foundation forming experiences before hand. The following is a true story.

A fourth grader is being punished for talking during math class by being told to add all the numbers from 1 to 100 while everyone else goes on juice break. The kid thinks a second and says 5050.
The teacher, unsure of the answer herself, ask "What makes you think that?"
Well says the kid
99+1 = 100
98+2 = 100
97+3 = 100
and so on until
51+49 = 100
so
49 x 100 = 4,900
You still have the original 100 bringing us to 5000.
Don't forget the fifty in the middle
so 5050.

To be fair the kid had to learn math to begin with but in "Good Will Hunting" he fully integrates all information instantly seemingly by magic, which I'm certain demonstrates the common misconception about how the world works for brilliant people.

I'm certain the potentially smartest people that ever lived were never recognized for their potential abilities and probably outcast for their slightly elevated tendencies to have opinions that were at odds with popular "common sense" opinions due to their advanced abstract reasoning.
It seems abstract reasoning can help you struggle through situations where the brain has no prior experience, but can't quote from obscure books citing the page number the quote was on.

The fourth grader in the story has earned on average about $35,000 a year since joining the work force, I could give his name but no one would know who he is, it would just be a name. He's currently homeless but employed, one of the working poor.

Novelty 8 Apr 17
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I think I read that Novelty has something to do with inverters. I met Heart the designer and manufacturer of one of the first dependable and efficient modified sine wave (step) inverters during the late 80s. This was really an advance in the industry at the time. One of the engineers from Trace came by the store and related a story where he and some friends were sailing down the coast of the Costa Rico jungle and a long-haired guy wearing only a belt and a machete came out to their boat on a sailboard and asked what inverter they had on board? A brilliant hippie that made a lot of money. I don't think he was totally motivated by monetary reward. He brought modern convenience to those living off-grid back in the 80s.

@Novelty Cool!

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Being smart means nothing since it how that smartness is applied. Most of the time the smart people I have met had no concern for money so they did not accumulate much of it. The y had great ideas and since the idea was what excited them they followed that idea where it led. Many times since money was not the goal they had little or none. I have often hoped to win the lottery for a lot I mean a lot of money, I think a great business could be had by getting these people together and letting them do what they are good at. Smart people doing what they want to do along with business people putting that intelligence into a framework for making people lives better, It could not fail, it would take longer than six months to get going so the need for a lot of money.

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Heisenberg's uncertainty principle notwithstanding, Good Will Hunting is NOT an old movie.

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"Good Will Hunting"
The name says it all, this movie went hunting for good will by being the most pretentious movie of 1997.
So much so that it's writers/stars even parodied it themselves in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back 2001 by portraying a fictional sequel "Good Will Hunting 2: Hunting Season!"

@MissKathleen I'm with you. I enjoyed it too even though the portrayal of genius seemed glib.

I wonder what you thought of the movie A Beautiful Mind? The Hollywood portrayal of insanity really got in the way of being able to suspend disbelief for me.

@MissKathleen Absolutely, I judge a film or movie on how well it achieves what it sets out to achieve, I agree totally Home Alone and some of it's sequels are fine movies that amused harmlessly and are suitable for family viewing.
I'm personally a big fan of the Police academy movies, and see no point in trying to judge them alongside Gone with The wind using the same criteria.
Good Will Hunting however as a drama fails, as art fails, it is slow, self aggrandizing and inherently flawed, in my opinion, it therefore fails as a film.
I rarely listen to "professional" critics and if I recommend a film it is because it worked for me and lived up to it's promises.

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yes?

@Word Means some variant of yes, I agree, spot-on, you nailed it.

African American slang, somewhat dated now. Also expressed as: word that.

@Mitch07102 Just making sure you weren't trying to get my attention.

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I agree with you that the movie misrepresents how smarts works and does everyone a disservice by underplaying the role of effort. Learning, as opposed to insight, is generally enhanced by promoting a growth mindset.

Nonetheless mathematical insight can sometimes reveal simpler approaches which sometimes allow those not certain that more complicated approaches will be required to finish first.

My stepson had the Gauss experience with a different problem in junior high. His teacher came back from a conference excited about a problem she'd worked on a bit but hadn't yet solved. So she shared it at the start of class. As he was leaving he handed her his solution and she could see immediately that it was correct. Anyone else enjoy this sort of thing? I'll give the problem and share his solution tomorrow or by message if you want to give it a go:

There are five guests at a birthday party. So the birthday boy wishes to cut the cake into five pieces so that each one will get an equal share of cake and of frosting. The cake is a rectangular prism with a square base and undetermined height, frosted evenly on the four vertical sides and top (and no where else). The slices can be made in any manner using a regular straight bladed knife. How can this be done?

Because someone always asks .. no, the entire cake cannot be put in a blender and served in pudding dishes, and neither can the frosting be removed and doled out separately after cutting the cake into five slices so that each one's width is a fifth the side length of the cake's base.

Just so I don't forget about this I'll go ahead and put the solution to the cake problem here. Warning, spoilers below.
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Mark off points around the perimeter of the cake's base of equal length. Make vertical cuts starting from the center of the cake through each one of these points. The resulting pieces of cake will have the same volume (cake) and an equal amount of the frosted surface. I can justify that if needed.

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I agree with your ideas Novelty, but I learnt eons ago that the first person to solve the problem that way was Gauss, from the 1800s. Not to say that the young boy in your story didn't independently work it out. It is unfortunate that genius is often unrecognised or even discriminated against, as happened to your gender throughout history.

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100 plus 1 is 101
99 plus 2 is 101
....
.... 51 plus 50 is 101.
So you have 50 lots of 101
50 times 101 equals 5050. Much easier to calculate.

Now ask me how to convert, 100% accurately, degrees Centigrade into degrees Fahrenheit by mental arithmetic. (The same logic also converts in the other direction.)

°C to °F Divide by 5, then multiply by 9, then add 32
°F to °C Deduct 32, then multiply by 5, then divide by 9

@Word Better system.

  1. In either direction add 40.
  2. Then multiply or divide by 1.8 (C to F, multiply, else divide)
  3. Subtract that 40 you added on at the beginning.

(Maths trick: to multiply by 1.8, double the number, then subtract 10% of the new number.)

ie. For 27 degrees Centigrade.
27+40 = 67
67x2 = 134
134-13.4 = 120.6
120.6 - 40 = 80.6 degrees Fahrenheit.

You can do this in your head. Try doing it in your head by your system and you'll have greater difficulty!

So why does it work?
Simple! Both scales coincide at minus 40 degrees. So if you add 40, you bring them both to zero. You can now adjust for their ratio of 5 to 9. Having adjusted, take the scales back down to their natural crossover.

I came across that system (in an article) when I was 15 years old. I had a massive argument with my maths teacher, who insisted it was only an approximation. He then ranted about me to my physics teacher, who thought about it, then remarked "Brilliant". After that my maths teacher became far more open to ideas!

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Understood- agree ; yes it is sad . Times improve some of
societal norms .Thinking along with everyone else is a safe
comfortable place to be. A co worker once said " he was
trying to listen to his inner voice( intuition )and RE- BUILD
his confidence in using it ". Once tamped down or regularly
ignored- we feel OK with not acting on it/ this is a loss of human potential , as I humbly see it.
To nurture it in ourselves is an awesome task , to
facilitate it in society seems insurmountable 🎐
thanks

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Fascinating story! Sad that people are Ostracized sometimes due to their smarts.

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Yup..couldn't agree more, even child prodigies have a foundation on which to build, a fertile, nourishing environment can be extremely helpful in learning...

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