No point of having freedom if you are sick or worse dead.

I agree that there is usually a trade off between safety and freedom, that's how civilization works. What I am not sure about just now is are we getting good value in the amount of actual safety we are gaining compared to the cost of the freedoms we are surrendering. Is there a better way to approach this pandemic than the route we are taking, can a middle ground be found that allows us to protect our livelihood as well as protect our health and the health of others who are vulnerable?
There are other health risks to be factored into the current response and deaths resulting from restricted access to health care because of quarantine may equal or surpass the mortality rates resulting directly from Covid-19. The poverty that will most likely result from a global economic collapse by the end of this year may likewise claim many more lives than the virus does.
Speculative but everything is speculative in a time of crisis, panic and poor data. Always remember that when we surrender our rights to the government temporarily the tend to disappear permanently.

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In my opinion, anyone can have both Safety and Freedom under the 'normal' circumstances but in times like these at present I willing trade my 'freedoms' in for both my safety and that of everyone else as well.
Shouldn't we ALL during times like we are experiencing right here and now?

Safety first.

Group safety from oppression is a driving force of freedom. I can't make much sense of your statement.

That's a nice strawman you've set up.

Before you go invoking the ghost of Thomas Paine again: Everyone trades off freedom for safety, every day of their lives.

Why do you stop at a stop sign? That's an inhibition on your freedom. Why only drive on one side of the road? But without those agreed-upon restrictions that we call "laws", the number of traffic deaths might go from 40,000 a year to 400,000. Or 4 million. Now, if you want to live in the world of The Road Warrior, that may sound okay to you, but I prefer not to.

There is no absolute freedom. We balance our freedom against everyone else's. Right now, everyone else's freedom from the risk of infection outweighs your freedom to walk around a store without a mask, breathe on people, go to the beach, or... whatever your gripe is.

I'm a libertarian, but right now, I support social distancing, because I'm not a damn fool.

It is NOT a choice of safety versus freedom. People in the U.S. do not have the "freedom" to commit manslaughter just because they want a haircut. Notice, it isn't the WORKERS begging to go back to work, it is the entitled white stupid people telling them they HAVE to go back to work.

I just hope so many stupids get sick and die that the election in November is a landslide against this ignorant fucktard.

Right now it’s safety.

People do not have the freedom to put others lives at risk. Yes, they have the right to assemble, the right to free speech. But when they get sick from exercising those rights, they are putting the providers that must care for them at risk. And for what purpose? So that you can get a hair cut? Go bowling? Get a tattoo? I've heard the phrase "My body, my choice" from these protesters. That's incorrect. Their saying needs to be corrected so that they say exactly what they mean; "They're choice, My body". This is why I have no problem taking away their rights to assemble. Stay home, so that I may be able to go home to my family!!

A nation set at war with itself is what I’m feeling in the USA. Lacking sound leadership, a stable populous, national identity or goals, my nation now looks for conflict, not consensus. So, we’ll pay a very heavy price, if one we can actually afford..

It’s a pendulum that must move between the two while avoiding either extreme.

The dead are not going anywhere or doing anything, thats a pretty big reduction in freedom. Some people gain a little freedom, some people get to have none at all.

Ok. ... versus .... There, I made it what my spell checker wanted.

We have freedom. The people protesting for "freedom" would take away the bill of rights in a second. Except for the 2nd amendment.

Not much choice be free to die horribly or live with some discomfort

Everything in moderation. We have been way off balance in so many ways....this will balance us out. I do not feel free. I have not felt free in my entire life. I kept myself pretty safe though. Still alive. Survived some pretty horrific situations. I think most choose safety over freedom. I think of this topic often. Thanks.

It's an inversely proportional relationship, isn't it?