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I am a former atheist, but after using psychedelics I have come to believe there is some form of energy that exists responsible for our earthly guidance. I don’t necessarily think there is one god, but an energy that manifests itself into our true desires. I have actually come into contact with beings on psychedelic compounds, and although it sounds like drugged up hippie mania, these experiences seemed much more real than just hallucinations. What do you guys think?

GODINDMT 3 Apr 10
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Let's talk after your psychadelics wear off...

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You should read True Hallucinations by Terence McKenna. It's a good book. Comical. What you are experiencing is the astral realm or maybe even the aetheric realm which is a higher frequency than the astral. It's a medium that we exist in and per say inhabit, i. e., the faerie realm...? An extension of our physical bodies manifesting into pure consciousness, or light... It's interesting to experience these dimensions because you can draw alot of wisdom and introspection from them. The Shamans of Antiquity, I am sure you have read or heard of, do this for religious and spiritual diadem.

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When on drugs, hallucinations seem much more real. Do you think it's because of, you know, drugs?

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That is interesting, and very complicaated. Will you worship this entity?

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I think you are the god figure you met during your trips. The totality of our brain, lit up from LSD or schrooms is a wonder of creation and overwhelming to the daytime consciousness.

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You need some science in your life. Neuroscience, to be specific. It wouldn't hurt to brush up on physics, either. "Energy", as you're using the word, has no relationship whatsoever to what it actually means.

Get educated, friend. I mean that in the nicest way possible.

Torq Level 5 Apr 10, 2018

I'm glad you liked it, @Donotbelieve, you are most welcome.
Here's a NDT meme as a bonus. : )

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Yeah, I'd say it sounds like this is just due to the effect of the drugs on the brain, rather than "meeting god"

Tombo Level 2 Apr 10, 2018
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I think being off your face is A) Your choice & B) Not the best way to come up with a cogent theory on Life, The Universe & Everything (Appropriate nod to Mr Adams)

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This is part of the reason for religion to begin with, freaking out over seemingly unexplainable events.

godef Level 7 Apr 10, 2018
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You are as high as a bat brother ... It's useful no doubt to use psycedilcs .. There are however two ways .. .. Micro dosing (just like it says) ... A tiny dose eveyday so small it could never get you high. That can have very positive effects.. I am not saying detaching from reality by taking more is not useful but it's a tool and nothing more. Nothing you feel or see there is more valid then when you are "straight".

The definition of the state hallucinogens put you in is, "PERCIEVED SENSORY ENHANCEMENT WITH SENSORY DEPRIVATION" .... So you are essentially delusional and as long as you can remember that you are okay. It is a great way to find ideas but that is all they are.. Idea's to be proven or dissproven when straight..

What is happening in your brain is you think you have extra senses when you have less. This causes the brain to fill in the gaps with sensory confusions often resulting in the sense a higher power must be present. I have met "god" on mushrooms lol ... but i never met god although i had what people call religous experience and have for thousands of years. It's just a complex set of brain conditions developed by plant toxins to defend themselves from our stupid ..

Read some Robert Anton Wilson maybe .. His best quote on it for me is, "If you are going to go into the chapel perilous you must be your own priest and worst critic"; what he means is if you are going to deprive yourself of that much sensory info whilst going into willing delusion prepare to potentially "feel" or percieve anything . and i mean anything .. Including the impression gods are around you .. he is also saying you have to be your own priest "incredibly supportive and understanding to yourself" .. you also need to be prapared to be very critical too as you are in there alone. It's your head after all. It's just the plants bud. Don't listen to em 😉

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If you were actually an atheist and came to atheism from a critical thinking point of view, you would know that atheist hear stories of personal testimony all the time. They are often presented as evidence of this or that belief. Your claim in not unique. You might have touched God, but how are we to know? You might have just had an intense personal experience and are predisposed to believing it is more meaningful than chemistry. Or any number of things. There is no way for me or you to actually know.
My advise to you, as someone that has also played around with psychedelics is you have a strong dose of skepticism and introspection after. Too many things are being played around in the brain to have much confidence.

JeffB Level 6 Apr 10, 2018
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I think you should lay off the psychedelics.

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I don't do recreational drugs.

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I haven't used any psycho-affecting drugs, yet I have had similar experiences... let's call them visions. And I do believe them.

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I think that recreational substances produce very real and compelling personal subjective experiences sourced from your own mind, which is capable of more interesting stunts than you probably once thought it was. Or maybe even still think it is. What reason do you have to assume these experiences, however vivid or compelling, come from anywhere other than your own mind? What basis do you have to call things that we already have perfectly servicable and descriptive names for (the mind, the self, the unconscious, the universe, existence) god?

Finally -- how, in practice would you accurately distinguish between a "manifesting energy" and your own desires? Seeing as how it conveniently manifests in the form of your "true desires"?

What is far more likely to be true of your experiences with hallucinogenics is that they removed some inhibitions and filters and thinking conventions that allowed you to be more authentic or at least to feel more authentic and profound. And of course, being that they are hallucinogencis, that you hallucinated.

I can't count how many times I had dreams where bizarre things happened that seemed profound and meaningful and then upon awakening seemed silly and fanciful. I don't see why recreational drugs would be any different.

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If that makes you happy why not
Each person has its right of opinion
Remember like they say whatever you put in and that is what you get out
theory works psychedelic in and psychedelic experince out

Rosh Level 7 Apr 10, 2018
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Sigh, I miss shrooms.

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Funny how that works, isn't it? I have taken psychedelics more than twice in my life and I find the exact opposite to be the case for me. After a hard LSD trip a few months ago, I was more confident than ever that gods only exist inside the minds of humans. It was obvious for all 10 years of Christian school attendance despite the apologetics and circular reasoning they tossed my way.
One may want to go "god lite" with the whole energy charade. That's fine, if it keeps your dick hard, think what you want. Believe what you want, no skin off my ass. Just don't expect others to entertain your notions with a straight face.........my 3 cents.

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Psychedelic drugs do such a fine job of separating people from reality that I'm surprised most religious sects discourage rather than encourage their use.

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Put down the drugs and step away from the computer.....

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