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How disgusting is this. Depending on what part of the country you live in, not many know just how bad it was down south. Has anyone read this book or know about this pos that did this to these people?

mistymoon77 9 Apr 14
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I was born and reared in the South. I do know how bad it was/is. That is why I am quite proud of the fact that my maternal 4th great aunt is Harriet Beecher Stowe, author of Uncle Tom's Cabin. However, even though she was a powerhouse in the efforts of abolitionism. Upon researching my family tree, I found, much to my distress, that I had another Beecher kin who owned 14 slaves. I felt like I had been hit in the chest with a sledge hammer. I will NEVER understand how someone could 'own' another human being.

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I know I saw a recent movie where this was pretty much the technique.
[imdb.com]

The Birth of a Nation if the link doesn't work.

One of the slaves had been raised to be able to read - and he was preaching on other plantations (and instructed on what to say) to keep the uprisings down.
Then he created a slave revolt.

Not exactly a happy movie - but educational - it was based on a Virginia uprising.

@AncientNight Yes there is an entire Wikipedia article about the movie.
I don't know how many facts were changed (if any) but it was a sad movie.
Also whenever I watch stuff like this I am all "My ancestors were farming in France! It's not my fault!".

@AncientNight I totally understand your relief.

We came through Canada - and then here (one generation in Canada). So I'm second generation born here.

And knowing my family wasn't famous and mostly farmers or craftsmen - well they weren't doing this crap. (Phew).

But of course what our ancestors did has nothing to do with who we are!

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To me, it seems one of the main motivators in creating religion, to keep the sheeple in line - all of them .

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Yes, that's religion in a nutshell for you.

jeffy Level 7 Apr 14, 2018
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Things like this are why I'm surprised more African Americans aren't atheist or at least don't believe in Christianity. Christianity is a religion that was given to African Americans in one hand by people who were patronizingly trying to "save" them and in the other actually harming them.

I imagine there were quite a few who just dropped religion entirely back in the day but it's something that was not documented. The quiet history of the African American Atheist throughout the centuries is a story I wish was documented and told.

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While using that filthy religion to brainwash and control people, I suppose it never occurred to him that he was brainwashed himself.

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Never heard of that book, but it doesn't really surprise me. Horrible!

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  1. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

  2. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

  3. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

  4. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

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Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

  1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

  2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

  3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual "uncleanliness" - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

  4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

  5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

  6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there degrees of abomination?

Damn, I miss The West Wing.

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Never heard they did that -sick sick sick.

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It's sad about what we did with people from different countries. I believe they read it in the bible and thought it was ok to have slaves. That's the damage this religion has done.

Exactly, that is where all this bullshit originated from. It pisses me off and saddens me at the same time.

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Little known fact: 'Converting' to Christianity saved a lot of Aboriginal Australian's lives. BUt yes, the book is ducked.

Yep still ongoing there!!! Only last year Tony Abbot or his successor signed away lots of land right again.. nuts. Loads of people lost their land again. Some of my friend out there do work to raise awareness. Heart surgery for people who can't afford it.. In Africa too.

Yes, it's an ongoing battle for land protection and rights. One good thing the y have done is an Aboriginal Ranger programs so that they become paid custodians of the land. But still much to be done.

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Revolting indeed.

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I know how bad it is in the south.

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Hmmm, I bought a box of vintage books 2 years ago, well preserved and some around 200 years old. I read 3 or 4, they were amazing, a couple were just as lame as when I tried to read them at school. Then I came across "Uncle Toms Cabin" Didn't finish the 1st chapter, I was sick to the stomach. I gave the whole collection of books away to be auctioned for charity.

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Hasn't that been the SOP for Christianity since the beginning? The pagans of Europe were often given the choice to convert or die...and their sacred places were stolen to build churches. The invaders of North, Central, and South America did the same to the Natives they found there. Hell, even the Mormon church had a policy of adopting Native children and AA children to assimilate them and turn them "white". The LDS actually prohibited anyone of color from having a leadership role in the church up until the 1970s when the government threatened to take away their non-profit status. None of this is "new". For the life of me, I can't understand why POC accept/join/promote Christianity.

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No surprise. No matter how great people think this country is the stinch of slavery will always be there. The racism that permeates the country today is a direct result of that system of ownership of other human beings. DEPLORABLE!

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Wow. Grrr...

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Morals.

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This make me sick to my stomach. I was raised in rural NW Louisiana. My family was Southern Baptist and many in my father’s side were Assembly of God. The N word and overt racism were really bad. I went off to college at the tender age of 16 (thank goodness of that - and there is a story there ). I remember having an argument with my father during my undergrad days about racism - and he told me that he didn’t know I was such a N word lover. Not all southerners are like my family - but plenty are.

Ohub Level 7 Apr 14, 2018
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It would be interesting to know what were some of the techniques.

Author Kamau Makesi-Tehuti... doesn't sound white.

It was reprinted in 2006.
Synopsis:
[What will be the benefit of giving enslaved Afrikans christianity?] "It is a matter of astonishment, that there should be any objection at all; for the duty of giving religious instruction to our Negroes, and the benefits flowing from it, should be obvious to all. The benefits, we conceive to be incalculably great, and [one] of them [is] there will be greater subordination ...amongst the Negroes (page 52)."

Admin Level 9 Apr 14, 2018

Quite true, all religions are there only to control the masses. Here in South Africa, the poor and disadvantaged are the most religous, while the rich and advantage are less so.

This is what they did to the American Indians. They took away their language, they made them cut their hair, they couldn't do any of their ceremonial dancing, they placed the kids in boarding school type camps and the nuns would reform them. I know this for a fact. Heres more info on that culture, it's just as bad as what this book is saying about the African Americans.. I tell ya. these are some fucked up people that do these things.
www.nmai.si.edu/education/codetalkers/html/chapter3.html

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Less than human!

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Ephesians 6:5 Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ;

@ThatpersonIam There is no question that the Bible favors slavery. On this factor alone people should reject the Bible. But they do not. Isn't this amazing?

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That's really rather disturbing.

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Most Christians (and other religionists) were and still are slaves. Why limit it to just one ethnic group.

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