We define patriotism differently. I am not "mycountry, right or wrong" person. I believe that criticism of my country and attempts to correct wrongs are part of my patrilotism.

All 4 are necessary to get the job done. The order does not matter.

Hub? Clarify, please.

@wordywalt you lost me at "hub," sorry, but my ref was to the sarcastic i guess quote "if you want to change the mafia, join it" paraphrased. Iow that doesnt seem to work, as the many, many pols who take up politics maybe demonstrates?

Another way to put it might be that you approach those things perceived as problems in a very gnostic way; "Those things which must be the the top priorities of us all," etc. By which i don't mean to say you are necessarily wrong, but that you will get valid disagreement on, imo

Not if we build our support the way we can and should.. Demographics favor the Democrats.

@wordywalt I gotta think that millennials are generally a more liberal and educated generation overall. I think it's starting to show in the polls. I feel the country will move more to the left.

@Fletch I think you are right. So much depends on whether Biden can build momentum, not just more of the same which will alienate the youth. There is always hope

I was never a great proof-reader,especially in my old age when my eyes are not good any more.

I always thought the message was more important than the grammatical correctness.

@Canndue Certainly the message is critical. However proper spelling and grammar give the writer improved credentials.

Don't you agree?

@wordywalt OK, I'll give a pass on that. I must admit that I was never a great proof reader either because I read into the text what I wanted to say, whether it was there or not.

@Gwendolyn2018 longtime, who knew?

@Alienbeing I prefer to see clear writing, always, but give leeway to some authors. It is easy to get lazy here. I’m typing on an iPad, hunt and peck. With auto change, some letters don’t always take first time, pain in ass to correct, plus these old eyes, I’m ok cutting some slack..

@Gwendolyn2018 if money is involved, I expect it to be correct. But casually, meh....

@Gwendolyn2018 you misunderstand me, you’re talking syntax, the original post referred to misspelling or typos...that’s what I was addressing. If you can’t get the message across, the rest doesn’t matter.

@Gwendolyn2018 auto correct/ fill can do that....

I get that this is all more important to you that it is to me. And that is ok

@Gwendolyn2018 well, books do get in the way, sometimes...

@Gwendolyn2018 Because of the number of errors in his post, and the fact that poor grammar is not a mistake.

@Gwendolyn2018 What is actully amazing is the fact that YOU change your mind with each post. One one hand you recognize that a casual post (as are usually the case here) don't need to follow proper English. One th other hand you nit pick.

Know this, all my posts are casual observations, and I really don't care what your nit picking mind causes you to belch out.

My initial ctiricism of wordywalt was only to recognize that after a long dissertation of his educational background he made many errors. That seemed odd.

Conversely, your comments are not odd, they are merely off base, with mindless, rather than "mechanical" errors.

@Gwendolyn2018 You addressed nothing. Your vocational background apparently killed your sense of humor, or maybe you never had one.

Have a nice day.

@Gwendolyn2018 You have a strange viewpoint. Did people pick on you when you were a kid? Pointing out what you should have easily seen as humor does not relate to your last reply.

Obviously it is hard for you to see past your lesson plan.

@Gwendolyn2018 YOU don't realize you've been nuteralized. It has nothing to do with the last word.

Prove me wrong.

@Gwendolyn2018 I'd think a person so well skilled in English would know what nuteralized means. I referred to the fact that everything you said was overcome, hence everything you said was neutralized.

Last, merely because you can't recognize your own shortcomings, does not mean they don't exist.

Sulk off into your safe space.

@Gwendolyn2018 You neve got it, never will. I really don't care what you have to say.

This NYT article says that ending the filibuster will be necessary in order to pass the voting rights act.

[nytimes.com]

"The swing votes include Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona, two of the most moderate Democratic senators, who have both expressed support for the filibuster."

Maybe we all need to put pressure on them.

and idiots are sending him what they struggle to acquire
I don't get it
and these are ppl that he would not allow in his clubs or in his presence he considers them beneath him
he sure takes their money though