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I'm an Atheist, more over a antitheist. I insist all religions ancient and present are human made fallacies and absurd thinking. Also convinced psychoactive substantives were consumed ergot, psychedelic mushrooms, mescaline etcetera. Being by accident or knowingly, they did not really understand their present reality with all it's illusions and dilutions. Thus supernaturalism steps in and religion is born. Thus my user name they were tripping

theyweretripping 7 May 10
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Ah, you insist, ok

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Whom are you trying to impress? We are all atheists of one sort or another here.

Mankind has probably sampled mind-altering substances throughout history, but the documentation of such is not available for “all” of it, so anything beyond recorded use is supposition.

How many understand their “present reality” currently?

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I'm not sure what substances were used or consumed. I was not there.

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Delete one of your double postings.

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Theism and atheism/antitheism are both forms of religious literalism. It is only a literal god that is either believed or disbelieved in.

Religious literalism is a modern invention, and has little relevance to ancient religions, or authentic modern ones.

The authentic, anthropological (scientific) heart of religion is figurative rather than literal.

Don’t take my word for it. Read the science.

skado Level 9 May 10, 2021

@David1955
The poster’s point is the expression of a personal identity, not a point of history. There is no scholarly consensus on a precise definition of religion, let alone a consensus that religions are nothing more than a fallacious human construct.

There is a veritable ton of scientific literature that suggests an evolutionary basis for religious behavior. When you look at it scientifically, there are no good guys and bad guys - just phenomena. Religions are most likely bioculturally evolved adaptive behaviors. Superstition itself is an adaptive trait. It’s virtually synonymous with “theory of mind” without which we couldn’t function as social animals.

You can stand for whatever makes sense to you, just as I can, but getting irked doesn’t help anybody. The truth is elusive, and nobody knows it all. Mutually respectful conversation is good. Life is complex.

I don’t identify as agnostic, theist or atheist. Those are all positions relative to belief in, or presumed knowledge of a literal god. I am a religious figuratist. You won’t find that in the dictionary either.

Metaphor exists. I’ve never known of anyone who denies that.

Atheist/atheism is not a religion. Antireligious is not a religion, but it does have a burden of proof.

@David1955 You “won’t stand for it”? Interesting. I’d say you have no power, beyond expressing an opinion, whether based on scholarly research or not.

@David1955
He’s stating his position and I’m stating mine. All is well.

If any readers have curiosity beyond comfortable ignorance they can independently investigate and see which position is supported by anthropological data.

Any behavior may seem absurd when the cause is not known. Knowledge is good. More is better. Nobody has it all. Peace.

@David1955 I see.

@xenoview
I’m not saying that atheism is a religion, but that it is a position relative to religious literalism. It doesn’t speak at all to the existence or non-existence of metaphor.

@MsKathleen He wishes not to be defined by others. The nonexistence of god is a fact, to him. To his own self be true.

Antitheism struck a cord with me. I find the expression of faith in a deity both jealous and incompetent offensive. Hopefully I will get past it. In the meantime, when the religious stop offending me by shoving their nonsense in my direction, I will probably care a lot less about their beliefs.

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You say,"...religions ancient and present are human made fallacies and absurd thinking. "

Defined as historically certified for almost 2000 years and contained in text holding modern accomplish for being in most copied text of it's kind to be evidence of well established definition: Religion - to help widows and orphans in need and avoiding worldly corruption. James 1:27

Not disputing "human made", but can you explain the fallacy and absurdity of thinking to help widows and orphans in need and avoiding worldly corruption?

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