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Do you like being intelligent?

If you are agnostic, you are statistically higher IQ than the general population. Being slightly more intelligent than most is nice, but being highly intelligent-around 140 IQ and above-usually comes with cons.

1.You might feel frustrated with "normal" people and only want to hang with intellectual equals.

2.most TV shows, books, and, of course, POLITICIANS drive you nuts with their idiocy.

3.most people haven't read the books you love, and look at you strangely if you mention them. Also your movie choices.

4.your relatives are likely as intelligent as you are, because of shared DNA, and could be snobby, critical, aloof, and difficult people to be with.

5.you don't care what other people think since you think them beneath you, and wonder what's wrong with everyone.

6.you have to watch, edit everything you say to normal people..sticking to weather, food, never saying anything deep or using big words.

7.with increased IQ and creativity, the percentage of mental illness mistakes on the DNA increases, so you could be suffering from depression, anxiety, panic attacks, etc.

8.you have a high likelihood of being LGBTQ-even if you don't realize it, since most high IQ creative people are androgyne (mixed gender). This mixing of gender hormones-male and female-causes hormone imbalances which also can cause health/mental problems.

9.your brain works too fast for normal people to follow, and to you, they seem to think in slow motion, if at all.

birdingnut 8 Apr 17
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I'm an Asperger, I'm used to it and having sometimes to explain.

I was never subjected to an IQ test because I grew up in "Darkest Africa" - the same country as did the father of that "stupid" (according to thick Evangelicals) fellow, Barrack Obama.

@birdingnut I've added a bit more to my comment - 'cause I'm like that!

@Petter My ex was probably on the Asperger's/autism spectrum, and I'm sure I'm on the autism spectrum. From what I've read, that's common for high IQ people.

@birdingnut Who are you calling common? I am UNcommon!!! Lol 🙂

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Many of the above apply to me, but not all, and I'm not near 140. So, am I banished?

Nah, come on in and visit with us 'advanced' buttheads, Condor!
(You know I'm being silly, I hope)

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I wonder how much of this counts if your brain has been injured.

Still counts. I was beaten in the head and robbed, nearly died, in 2014. It slowed my brain and I had to relearn to walk and keep my balance, but my brain slowed down to match others around me for the first time in my life. It was such a relief to speak slowly enough for people to follow me. But I did start recovering and soon was almost as incomprehensible as before.

@birdingnut
I'm glad that you are still here. ??

@Wildgreens Yeah..I'm still looking around for a more open-minded forum, but I've blocked so many trolls by now, I'm being attacked less often.

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The good news is there's a strong correlation between how smart people think they are and how stupid they actually are

that isn't just the result of research, I've also seen it, a top scholar throwing away a good chunk of his life promoting something (the EU) that was clearly contrary to his own beliefs without thinking about what he was actually doing, another was a top British and American (Wharton) scholar who did substantial damage to the first half century of the NHS for no reason other than that he could.

I'm not sure what connection there is between IQ and real life intelligence, but there does at least appear to be a connection between measured IQ and stupidity, perhaps through the 'pride cometh before a fall' mechanism.

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British Psychological Society - Research Digest
By Emma Young

...for a complex reasoning task – “deductive reasoning” – for which there were no obviously intuitive answers, there was much less of a group difference.

Daws and Hampshire concluded: “These findings provide evidence in support of the hypothesis that the religiosity effect relates to conflict [between reasoning and intuition] as opposed to reasoning ability or intelligence more generally.”

If, as this work suggests, religious belief predisposes people to rely more heavily on intuition in decision-making – and the stronger their belief, the more pronounced the impact – how much of a difference does this make to actual achievement in the real world? At the moment, there’s no data on this. But in theory, perhaps cognitive training could allow religious people to maintain their beliefs without over-relying on intuition when it conflicts with logic in day to day decision-making.

(end part of the summary)

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I am heterosexual but I like hanging with women better than men , my best friend is a woman. I have been told by some guys I have female eclectic tastes and that I act like a female at times, so I guess it might be right.

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My IQ is only around 130, and, at times, I fidn it very frustrating to deal with less intelligent persons.

I may be above average, but my brain tends to not work fast. Howeer, my answers are usually better having taken my time thinking about them.

I hadn't seen research to support that more intelligent persons are LGBTQ. I am gay, but I just never put the two together as a correlation. I'll wait until see actaul data before repeatign this.

Yes, a lot fo politicians driv eme nuts.

It is true I have read a great deal more than mos tpeople, but I think tht is in part due to my partial blindness and inability to find work doe to my parital blindness, so I hve a lto of leisure time, where I "read" books (it is actauly listenign to audio books, preferably unabridged).

The frustratign thign fro me is that most peopel aregenerally lazy about thinking and usign their minds. Probably the thing I liek aobu tthis site most is that here peopel seem to actually be thinking

I didn't say that LGBTQ people were high IQ-I said that most creative high IQ people are androgyne, although they likely don't realize it, as I didn't.

A high percentage of high IQ people have some sort of mental health issue, or are LGBTQ in other ways. But that doesn't work both ways.

It's like saying all cats have fur, but not everything that has fur is a cat.

Most LGBTQ people I've met don't seem any brighter than most, so it's just the small percentage of them to which this applies.

Although extremely smart people are statistically more likely to be on the autism spectrum and/or LGBTQ, not all have gay, pansexual, or other alternate types of sexual attraction, although many do.

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In spite of the title of this website I don't profess to be agnostic which I always believed to be a 'don't know'. I'm an anti-theist atheist and the idea, propagated by charlatans or idiots, that the universe and all its extraordinary vast contents was intelligently manufactured by an invisible creator floating around somewhere, as well as being an incredibly stupid insane idea, is a total impossibility.
[All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Islamic, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind and to monopolise power and profit. Thomas Paine.]

Right on, write on.

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I get that

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I would contend that the IQ evaluation relied upon might be fooled by the individual's critical thinking talent. Also, critical thinking people are more likely to investigate an issue and not accept input as true without investigation. While I have been assessed as having an IQ higher than normal, I only pride myself in skepticism of presumed facts and a willingness to investigate input beyond the initial input.

A presumed fact is not a fact. Fact is fact whether known or unknown to the individual. 'Fact' needs no modifier.

@Rubydooby Okay, I'll but that, allow me to say alleged fact or theory.

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I was told when in 8th grade I had an IQ of 143. When I was 38 I had a stroke, tested a few months later at just 110. HUGE difference, stuff that was formerly so easy was Not! Have worked my way back up to the 130's, much better?

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And our handwriting, along with other stuff, suffers, since we're thinking steps further in advance of what our physical bodies can manage to keep up with.

And yes, in answer to your question. I like being intelligent, and yes, ofttimes, it's frustrating.
As to mental issues, I'd imagine it's a similar situation to what minorities everywhere have. Having to hide what one really is, does, and thinks creates conflict in oneself. Only with one's peers, or open-minded supporters, can such a person grow into that lovely person they were meant to be.

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I never felt I had a choice, but I did feel it tended to isolate me as I grew up.

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Being on the right tail of the normal curve, I can say for me that #1, #2, #4, and your second #7 are true. #3 not so much, #5 sometimes, both #6s are sometimes true. Your second #6 is flawed as high IQ and mental illness are correlated but inferring a cause and effect is specious.

[scientificamerican.com]

I disagree with your first #7, LGBTQ is correlated with creativity, not intelligence. Many highly intelligent people aren't creative. I've been to enough Mensa meetings to know that.

I like being intelligent most of the time. It has helped me at school and often at work. It definitely limits my social relationships - see #1 and the second #7.

That why I said creative high IQ types, since that's a different category.

People with a higher IQ are at greater risk of mental illness, study finds [independent.co.uk]

Superior IQs are associated with mental and physical disorders, research suggests [scientificamerican.com]

I looked briefly at the story about the study about high IQ. They tested people in Mensa. That could be high IQ people who join Mensa rather than high IQ people. That could have to do with the type of people who join Mensa rather than high IQ people. It's not a random sample of people with high IQ.

@Stephanie99 You are correct of course, as stated in the article, "The results of this study must be interpreted cautiously because they are correlational. Showing that a disorder is more common in a sample of people with high IQs than in the general population doesn’t prove that high intelligence is the cause of the disorder. It’s also possible that people who join Mensa differ from other people in ways other than just IQ. For example, people preoccupied with intellectual pursuits may spend less time than the average person on physical exercise and social interaction, both of which have been shown to have broad benefits for psychological and physical health."

@birdingnut Sure - you might be right about that. I'm not sure if the highly intelligent subtype of creative people fits the overall generalization but it might. I have not seen evidence that it does and I hang out with smart people.

I cited the same Scientific American article as you did and both articles are about the exact same study. This is also a correlational and self reported survey study so there isn't necessarily a causal relationship. The Independent's implied conclusion in the article title is wrong and they back it off in the article, "However, the study pointed out that a high IQ was not the cause of mental illness, but it could be correlated with the highly intelligent community."

As @Stephanie99 said, the sample isn't random either.

This is one of the flaws of reading non scholarly articles that interpret the results of a study. In a peer-reviewed scientific journal, they would cite supporting studies, the statistical tests used including what, if anything, they did to correct for sample selection, response bias...

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Most of these things apply to me. I took an IQ test in high school and scored 152. I was told 200 was as high as you could get. I assumed it was a linear scale and figured I was 76 percentile... not bad but nothing to get excited about. It wasn't until grad school that I learned that was well above the Mensa cut-off! Well... I guess it kept me humble!

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Precisely so.

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Here are couple of links about agnostics having a higher IQ than most.

Why Atheists Have Higher IQs [huffingtonpost.com]

Belief in God is associated with lower scores on IQ tests. [digest.bps.org.uk]

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1, 2 & 3 are big issues with me, but I don't have the opportunity to hang with intellectual people. I have no friends, and I try to ignore the ill informed, the ignorant, and the religious nuts at work by burying myself in my Kindle books during breaks, and tuning them out (not easy). Many of them are own their phones too, but surfing YouTube or whatever, looking for distractions to avoid THINKING! njoy_life_2 mentioned handwriting. Mine SUCKS! I can't even read it! Not even my signature! So I print whereever I can. Not sure how that relates to the discussion, but I certainly related to her comment!

My handwriting is terrible too and I don't write well either, I blame it on being dyslexic. The schools turned me off to education as a child, I had a terrible time learning to read and as I mentioned, I've never learned to write well. Spelling was the worst, I was always eliminated first in a spelling bee, even in this post I had several words redlined. Never considered myself super smart either or I should be rich.

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So... I put a comment on here... seems it's vanished...

Did I say something wrong?

KarlM Level 3 Apr 17, 2018

Brother, if we can't see it, how would we know?

@NoTimeForBS someone must have deleted it... would be nice to know if I said something wrong or I just ran into intolerance...
I have never tested my IQ so who knows if my brain is just too slow...

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Ignorance is bliss.

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