Yep, just got into a FaceBook argument with a religious fanatic who will "pray for my soul" which is just a veiled insult to say I am an idiot. His argument is abortion is against God, I countered no it isnt, God even has a means to accomplish it and condones the killing of all kinds of innocent people including infants, pregnant women and children. I even provided Bible verses. I had to laugh when he claimed Satan had my heart and I had to tell him, Sorry dude, I don't believe in Satan. Satan does not exist! He claims he has been a Biblical student for over forty years but didnt seem to really know his material. He asked for verses to back up my claim so I gave em to him!
I hear you. Xtians in general are abysmally uneducated about their own religion/history. In the Internet age, that’s WILLFUL ignorance. IMHO, the worst kind!
If it makes you feel good great. I don't bother. Lately on Agnostoc.com ad on FB I'll debate people as they write negative comments when I'm in the mood.
On the issue of abortion I always point them to the flood.
Genesis 6:7
The LORD said, "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them."
Pretty big abortion based on regret that.
Not to mention there was a time when he demanded that each family sacrifice their first born child as an offering to him. Very inhumane god.
Here's a fact for you to use in abortion debates: more than 800,000 miscarrages are reported in the US each year. Why would an all knowing all powerful God put souls into these babies if he was just going to take them back again?
What about killing the first born ? Is it better that they are born before they get killed ? ...one I like to ask . He's a cherry picker that's why he couldn't give you any answers
Not sure I see offering to "pray for your soul" as meaning in any way that you're an idiot. God people really seem to believe that praying for anyone and everything is what they're supposed to do, the brainwashing is effective !
But I have found that many people that are not god centered know far more about other religions - probably because many have come from a religion, and also are more open to learning without being threatened. Meanwhile, the god people seem to ONLY know about whatever religion they're in - and often minimally at that ...
It's as if learning too much may shake up their beliefs somehow.
They are lazy. They don't learn their own religion. They don't educate themselves about other religions. Their 'praying' is just way of doing nothing.
Religious people are like robots. I don't think they even believe what they are claiming, but they are programmed to spiel their nonsense even though most of them haven't read the bible. It's sort of like everyone is jumping off the mountain, so maybe I should, too.
Most have never truly read the Bible is my belief or if they have they find some strange way to reconcile the things that don't add up
Oh that old go to, they will pray for you. That's what they say when they have run out of arguments.
Im glad Im not the only one that sees that, I think they also use it as an insult and an escape mechanism.
I've been a non-believer for decades but I never understood the reason to argue wth believers.. May I ask what were you trying to accomplish? No judgement, I'm jus curious as to what was your goal.
They put up this ridiculous meme on abortion claiming God was against it when I know in their precious book God is anything but child friendly and in fact has no compunction whatsoever against killing babies, and in fact goes out of his way to instruct his followers to do so. So much for Gods sanctity for life! Just thought Id point out that fact.
I always explain to them that the doctrine that life begins at conception and abortion is sin, is the doctrine that's younger than a happy meal. It didn't exist before about 1980 and wasn't fully entrenched until later in that decade.
I can give them scripture but I don't. It is there religion not mine. Let them believe what they wont. Don't insult me or disrespect me I am a intelligent man and I will not insult you.
People of faith are hilarious.
And scary at the same time.
@Sticks48 Terrifying.
Same old horse manure. I'd like to tell him that 80 years of putting up with Yahweh's stupid management here on earth sure dosen't make want to spend eternity with him, even if it were so, The fundis tell us about devine (perfect) creation but don't mention people living long beyond their designed time and a world not planned for 13B people. As fare as abortion goes, I don't believe the small embreyo constitutes life and if it were, maybe the lucky ones are those who get aborted.
Even in the Bible the child must be a month old to be considered a person.
Most don't actually know the bible, they only know certain verses. For instance, in the bible "god" killed millions of innocent men, women and children for no reason other than being jealous or throwing a temper tantrum where as Lucifer only ever killed one man that deserved it. Also anyone who actually studies religion and the bible would know that his name was/is and always been Lucifer never once was he aver refered to as "Satan" that was a man made depiction not from any scripture. Also people demonise Lucifer but no he is not a demon but infact still an angel that just fell from "grace" the donly demons were the 1/3 of the angel popula that folled him that was their punishment
And he did it more than once too!
God certainly doesn't seem to care that much. Miscarriages happen all the time.
Another xian Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest : "rip open the bellies of pregnant women" sounds like the alleged god Jehovah is FOR VIOLENT ABORTION OF ALL SAMARIAN WOMEN but "virgins keep for yourselves" is the rape reward for Hebrew war criminals invading Samaria 2 Kings 15:16