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According to Biden, “We gave them every chance to determine their own future. What we could not provide them was the will to fight for that future.”

However according to this article, Afghan fireign minister general idea was this in 2020 "On a question on the Afghan army lacking the capacity to tackle the Taliban on its own, the acting foreign minister said that in case of success in the peace process, Kabul would be less dependent on foreign aid and spending resources on the military. But he reminded international donors that if the process fails, which will mean the continuation of support to terrorism, Afghanistan would require continued military help."

Flowerwall 7 Aug 17
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I am pissed that we ever invaded them in the first place. The people under George W. Bush said that it would cost about 6 Billion and it ended up costing over 6 trillion, mos tof which got added to the national debt. They also assured us that it woudl nto end up to be a quagmire like Vietnam, meaning an unwinnable war, and 20 years later it has proven to be unwinnable.

I see the pulling out of troops as a long overdue action to correct a long failed policy. Yet we are still stuck with Trillions in debt due to Bush's bad decision way back when.

There was no way to pull out without the government collapsing for the last 20 years. Biden at least had the guts to do it, and ending What would have been a never ending money sink hole.

So you invest $6 Tril iver 20 years and then just drop it all like a hot potato, not giving one thought to who gets burned in the process or even the strategic value of the location itself. Sounds logical. (Sarcasm)

@Flowerwall So you think that going on as if the is no risk at all of our country going bankrupt is just fine? At some point other countries will stop buying U.S. bonds if our national debt is too high. And, it could be argued that it is already too high. If we are going to increase the national debt it is better that the money be invested here at home.

Biden is redirecting spending to invest in our future here at home, in things such as infrastructure, so the U.lS. doesn't fall further behind other countries.

At some point you have to cut losses... such as spending too much on foreign wars.

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I'll play devil's advocate and say that the mission-creep that devolved into nation-building was doomed from the start. That being said, we could and should have kept enough military there to defend themselves and to keep the Taliban in check. My understanding is that the US had been doing that for the last few years without too many US casualties. We station many more thousands of soldiers in other countries for nothing more than economic aid to said countries. Having a base in Afghanistan would certainly have strategic value, and would show some willingness to stand up against religious psychotics. I'm betting that most of the cited trillions spent were diverted elsewhere, and/or wasted on futile nation building.

Again, I believe we should look at Afghanistan as an object lesson against our own situation wherein religious fanatics hope to overturn the government in favor of them getting and keeping power thereafter. Will the US also fold like a cheap suit?

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THINK! How happy would you be, how inclined to "get with the program", if an invading force was occupying, uninvited, U.S. soil?????
We need to let the world find out what it wants for itself,, stop meddling, mind our own business!
Because things are Far from perfect here, who the F are we to preach to others?

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Just a appeal for more money that gets siphoned off, corruption is rampant there

bobwjr Level 10 Aug 17, 2021
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How many years were we stay and hold their hand? We need to get out of Iraq next.

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The moment we (Bush/Cheney/Haliburton) started nation building, this was the foregone conclusion. Had we left the war lords in charge, with some military aid, they would have kept out most of the Taliban.

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I'm sorry, but the U.S. has wasted over 2 trillion dollars and the lives of 2 thousand troops for nothing. It's just another Vietnam or Iraq and nobody has learned anything.

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A false rationalization.

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How long were we supposed to stay?
They knew we were eventually going to leave.
This is on them.
If they wanted freedom so badly, they would have been fighting for it, LONG before we ever got there.

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Enough is enough, if they value their freedom so less as to stand and fight for it then they are not worthy of that freedom. Freedom is not free, and if they are not willing to fight and die for it as our founding fathers did, then we can't hold their hand forever.

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