So how did you escape?

@Petter im gods gift to the world obvi

@HeAdAkE beware of Greeks (and geeks) bearing gifts.

Yah supposedly admits to creating calamity in the Bible, not that too many Xtians would be aware of that i guess

:rolleyes go with that then, if you like
not even close though, sorry

@bbyrd009 rolls eyes back at you and says whatever.

@MrDragon well you use your “faith” every day, all the time?

@bbyrd009 Don't you?

@MrDragon i forget that atheists like to go by believer's definitions, why idk

so, we're comin at each other at 65 mph, with only a double yellow line separating us..."faith"

@bbyrd009 hmm interesting, are you assuming that I have faith? I can assure you that I have no faith in any gods or anything as such, however, in myself is another matter. So, where do you stand on that?
Or could it be that I am missing something here?? I have been known to misunderstand things before.

@MrDragon well, you have faith that the other guy won't cross the dbl-yellow line too, eh? Faith in "God" is problematic imo in that one would first have to define God, so ya not really sure what that means either? Faith in yourself might actually be the point, yeh

@bbyrd009 Ah, no, I do not, have faith in the other person staying on their side of the road, it is more of a hope that they will. I drive by this rule of thumb; if it looks like they can do something stupid they more than likely will. So, I drive very defensively. Faith is a totally different animal, as an example of what we are really talking about here can be compared to someone telling you that they will pay a debt for you and you believe they will, in fact, you believe that so much that you have put your faith in that person to the point that you're not even going to worry about the debt at all. That isn't only faith it's trust. However, that again is a person you can see and touch. Now, faith in a god is very problematic because you're putting your trust and your faith into something that is totally intangible and for the most part imaginary, and that has no clear definition. I have found that most people's definitions of their god are very contradictory at best.
So, yeah, it is better to have faith in oneself and abilities than to trust in an imaginary being to save you.

@MrDragon so, you define faith one way, a believer defines it some other way, but faith might have a definition all its own, nonetheless

@bbyrd009 with that being said, I suppose that it would be a subjective issue.

@MrDragon ya...it stems from a term that means "persuasion," so if you arent persuaded, then faith won't follow, obviously

you i don't blame so much, but hemant is a hypocrite, and already knows better than to read Conquest Genre literally. No one died ok, its been demonstrated over and over

@bbyrd009 I agree it’s fiction and no one died however just pointing out the craziness in the bible

@abyers1970 ah...comes across as missing the point, but ok

ha or maybe Yah just had enough of hypocritical baptisms lol

According to Fat Robberson the problems in Haiti came about many years ago when they made a pact with the bad boy of that old bibble book.

@DenoPenno - Just like the old guy from the "old bibble book" to make his own believers suffer for what others did "many years ago".

@DenoPenno The bad boys are the corrupt politicians who allowed the church and other buildings to be built to an inferior standard in an earthquake prone area.

Although it does require logical "ab-sense".

How sadly true.

I wrote "Then I retort", which is a far cry indeed from "say".

So mysterious to be completely incomprehensible unless he’s a complete sadist!

@Petter your statement makes no since. You say you Resort which you claim is a far cry from "say".

But looking at definition of retort, it IS to:

SAY something in answer to a remark or accusation, typically in a sharp, angry, or wittily incisive manner.

@Marionville I wouldn't know if anything "sexual" were to be attributed, but masochist seems more appropriate than sadist.

a person who derives sexual gratification from their own pain or humiliation - masochist.

So could it more correctly be viewed that a God thingie wants its followers to hurt the god thingie for purposes of the god thingie suffering pain and humiliation for gratifying purposes?

@Marionville or this scenario, "masochist humiliation worship". Masochist god thingie cause atheist to give sarcasm worship to the non-existent fly spaghetti monster sky God by making fun of, or humiliation of the masochist god thingie?

@Word I know the difference between the two words and actually did mean sadist and not masochist! The suffering of we humans seems to be on the agenda of this wholly fictional god…the sexual dimension I’ll leave it you as it isn’t in my head but yours. The whole idea of a god is all in the head of course, as god isn’t real but only a human concept…not mine though!

@Word I’m sorry…now you’ve lost me completely!

@Marionville God thingie? Anything about calculus? A major concept of calculus is the concept of infinity.

How then does this "god" concept you say is human concept correlate as a concept as infinity is a concept?