We are all unusual in one way or another.

@LovinLarge so true.

I am not an expert in this field, but I have read the expert literature and the experts do not agree with you. There are sex disorders but there is also at least one other non-binary sex and those people are indeed normal people.

[scientificamerican.com]

@Gwendolyn2018 Thank you. I will read those articles this afternoon. You are such a credit to this website. I don't always have time to comment on your posts but I read them as often as I can.

@Gwendolyn2018 Please keep up the very good work!

Even if you are 100% correct, we as a society should not marginalize or discriminate anyone who is born atypical nor should such people be barred from the same rights everyone else has unless there is absolutely no other choice (such as not allowing blind people to operate vehicles). Regardless of how someone is born they are due the same respect and dignity as you wish for yourself.

I'm not even sure how one would define "normal". It's not "normal" for an adult to be under 5 feet tall or over 6'6" tall. Its not normal for an adult to weigh more than 350 pounds. It's not normal for anyone to be left handed since the majority of people are right handed. Its not normal for people to be born color blind. Its not normal for people to be bipolar. Where do we draw the line between normal and abnormal and who gets to decide?

Perhaps the bastardization of language cannot be stopped. Those that think that there are more than two sexes should be sure to let us know how any of these other sexes are able to reproduce, and what that non-binary process is. Does it involve an ova-sperm or a sperm-ova? Or are they cloned, parthenogenic, or what...

@Charles1971 My friend, as I said :
" BTW, Luckily I think my position about Transes is clear, so no need to repeat myself, but as a short I respect, accept, love them like all the rest of humans and they have Absolute rights as humans and living beings. "
so I'm With you for sure, at this part.

and as I said Nature and Natural Selection is the Scale of what's Biologically Normal! Neither me Nor Society.
Natural Selection has a Simple Rule: Reproductive and Surviving. with Genetic and Chromosome Disorder usually there is an issue with one of these 2 factors and Sadly or Luckily Nature is So Cruel to deal with these things.
that's why this kind of disorder stops at one person and you can't see someone inherit this kind of issue from their parents.

@LovinLarge Even in your Post's link they refer to it as DSD ( Disorder of Sex Development )! it's a Well known issue! as XXY issue called Klinefelter Syndrome!
I think the meaning of Syndrome and Disorder is clear

@Gwendolyn2018 Your comment is a straw intersex. No, intersex is not another, third or any other sex.

Trans propaganda provides ideal ammunition for the GQP crazies. While trans ask for rights protection, women lose their rights, and the whole system goes fascist.

@Diaco @racocn8 The article's thesis is that sex is a non-binary spectrum. It acknowledges various DSD'S including intersexism, which occurs regularly in human birth. There are 6 chromosomal sex variations possible. There are many reasons people can't or don't procreate and they are still normal.

This issue is a matter of biology which is why the SCOTUS nominee answered as she did yesterday. Opinions don't count and there's been no evidence to the contrary argued. This is an important issue because it informs the issue of gender identity, which is not a matter of biology.

@LovinLarge (Link "The categories used for sex and gender are socially constructed. This doesn’t mean that sex and gender aren’t real, but that the way people conceptualize them isn’t set into the fabric of the universe — it can, and does, change."

Science might be seen as a social construct, but the objective is non-subjective and not artificial. Sex is binary, with the intersex variations that develop as variations of the binary. Sex IS a binary spectrum. There is no third or other sex. The two sexes ARE set into the fabric of the universe (at least for humans and other mammals), though subject to mutations. Gender, on the other hand, is wholly, totally artificial and thus, not real. Gender may represent the underlying sex, or not, demonstrating its unreliability and meaninglessness (and unreality). Yes, gender is not a matter of biology, unless one chooses to include neurochemisty and the behavior derived from it.

@LovinLarge
Pls, don't Put yourself in this Mind Trap !!!!
1- pls. show one case of an inherited DSD.
2- If there's no case and it's not an inherited condition, and can't find continuous generations with the same stable Biological factor, how you can count it as Normal Humans Nature.
3- if it's a normal thing why do Biologists calls it a disorder/syndrome?!
4- pls. READ this Link completely, all the health issues, and tell me is it NORMAL ?!
[nhs.uk]
really! is this my Personal Opinion ?!
5- if gender identity isn't related to SEX and Biology why do you insist to bring Biology up in the first place to support a new gender identity?!
6- why do you yet insist to say a TransWoman is a Woman?
Woman = female human being. if so it's a Paradox, in which you say sex is NOT binary ( male/female ) and we have Transes, and at the same time you say TransWoman is female/woman!!!!!
7- if we Accepted a NEW identity, why do we have to force to Put and Fit it in OLD Boxes/Titles/Rules!? why can't we expand Society for a new identity?!

@Gwendolyn2018 I just can't figure out why certain individuals are so heavily invested in sex being binary when biology refutes it. It doesn't matter to me, I just want to be accurate and inclusive but to some others it seems oddly personal.

@Diaco @racocn8 All of the evidence on the table refutes sex as binary. I am also not a biologist. I can't be an expert in every field and defer to experts as necessary. I have restricted my remarks to biology and not included opinion. I've spent all the time I can on this.

@LovinLarge hmmm, But you didn't answer my points, the most important part is about this link ( about DSD ) which is your refrence : [nhs.uk]

Btw, I'm Not a Biologist too ( changed my field of study and left Medical Uni. after a year because I realized I Love logic and Coding more ) yet have my basic knowledge and independent side study.
What I know is: It's not a personal thing and we have to face it with logic and science. pls. be aware misunderstanding around trans topics can have serious consequences for generations.

@Gwendolyn2018 @LovinLarge @Diaco (I do have a BA in biology with extra years in developmental biology)

If a person cannot reproduce, what sex is that person? What they say they are? What their genotype says they are? Or what gametes their body (should have) produced?

They are whatever sex that would be able to reproduce, but for whatever medical condition prevents it. If they have or had eggs, they are female, etc. Hermaphrodites exist, and some might be able to reproduce as either one of the two sexes, but that does not make them a third sex.

People who change themselves physically may as well get a tattoo for all the difference it makes. People should not disregard social norms and then complain when they get unwanted attention.

The campaign to confuse the artifice of gender with sex, and then to declare sex as a social construct actually does harm to those it imagines it is helping. And, they do need help. But they're not about to get it with nonsensical agitprop. People who attach excessive significance to sex or gender should address their obsession.

Ah, the things we could learn from Native American culture if we were willing to listen!

Since gender is a random social construct, why would we limit ourselves to two genders?

@LovinLarge ABSOLUTLY

This is so racist stereotypical nonsense.....yes there are SOME TRIBES THAT encouraged freedom to choose mates and love lifestyles....many more tribes were so misoginistic bellicose like some hebrew tribes called women SQUAWS like brood stock traded for weapons horses or exchanged daughters as peace bonds between tribal chieftains.... read 2nd Kings 8:12 AND 15:16 the alleged gawd jeehobah ordered all the Samaritan pregnant women bellies ripped open "dash the little ones against the stones LET NOT ANYONE LIVE but keep the virgins for yourselves" to rape and breed more warriours....."sports" were first war practice skills millenia ago and NOW this gender INSANITY letting boys compete against girls by changing John's name to Johnnie is now illegal in Iowa ....just 8 years ago a trans person was an adult undergoing hormone therapy speech therapy awaiting sexual reassignment surgery ..... my Green Party various State conventions and "platforms" have been battlegrounds the last 3 years between REAL Feminists and these transNAZIs...the line must stop at unisex gender neutral single occupancy bathrooms ....we Cherokee just pissed out side in the grass dug a hole in the ground to shit and covered up like my cats in their kitty litter....In Canada we are called FIRST NATIONS
.....the xians destroyed 2 thirds of the original 1800 tribes by death disease and xian schools washing out our mouths with soap for speaking tribal "culture" ....ignoring all that to validate trans sports rule changes is just another liberal fascist divide&conquer communities scam

@greenatheist good grief... Where would one even start to respond to this comment???

@Redneckliberal Why bother?