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Insightful Commentary on the net from 'Debra' to Steve Kirsch

Steve: you come from the Left (what Lenin liked to call "the Useful Idiots" ) until you were red-pilled. I come from a staunch conservative weltanschaung. But what I continue to learn through the recent and ongoing politico-medical despotism we must now fight (globally) is that our new-found coalition of Freedom Fighters from across the political spectrum share a deeper hardwiring that I think of as a Warrior Spirit. In this newly found kinship and coalition I am particularly grateful that so many former Leftists (e.g. you, Mark Crispin Miller, Naomi Wolf, etc.) bring a tough street-fighter energy and drive that too many conservatives have lacked due to complacency, sometimes outright cowardice, and no small dose of what I call "Hallmark Card Christianity".

When my own father was medically murdered in 2016 we learned that California physicians have virtually a license to kill -- especially anyone who is not a wage-earner such as the elderly and the young -- because of absurdly low caps on financial rewards through the courts which ensure no attorneys will take such cases. But we nonetheless paid for the autopsy neither the hospital nor the government would pay for. We documented everything, consulted attorney friends, and did our level best to fight to bring such abuses into the light of day. We looked at this as the very least we owed to avenge our father's unjust death, to hold the medical community accountable, AND to save other people from experiencing this same injustice.
Sadly, we achieved none of this and less than a year later good friends lost their college-aged son to the administration of similar cocktails of psychotropic drugs with black box warnings (and NO testing EVER for the impacts of simultaneous administration). They too learned it was impossible to sue for wrongful death or medical malpractice due to California laws capping court awards.

So people (especially in elder-care facilities) continue to be murdered at scale in California with impunity. As the physician who ignored our repeated legal directives to administer NO psychotropic drugs to our elderly father with slight dementia told us nonchalantly, as Dad lay dying in the room, knowing he was legally unassailable: "It's Standard of Care."

We HAD to fight to honor our father, to seek justice, and to help save others. I will NEVER understand the Covid-era mindset of all these parents, children, spouses and other family members who merely wish to be left alone in their grief, when the ONLY way to give meaning to the unjust medical murder of their loved one & the ONLY way to help save others from a similar fate is to FIGHT, to speak out, to try to bring sunlight and transparency to EVIL and murderous corruption in both government and corporate players who wield the power of life and death through their actions. They don't even INSIST on autopsies or pay for them themselves. They seem to want to be in willful denial of a horrific truth. And so they dishonor their loved one's death AND make meaningless what such unjust death might provide in a righteous fight against EVIL in this world.

I feel a deep kinship with the California father who refused government funding to lie and say his only teenaged son was killed by Covid when he was actually medically murdered by the "vaccine". He testifies, he goes on television, he speaks at conferences. He honors his son by speaking truth & fighting courageously to give meaning & value to his unjust death.

BDair 8 Oct 18
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Since this is from our Resident Anti-Vax Idiot, BDair, i am not buying most of it, maybe less.....

That is an excellent way to remain ignorant.

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Learn how to spell Weltanschauung.

I have no idea what the term means. You can take it up with the author, 'Debra'.

@BDair totally typical of you, posting things of which you understand Nothing.

@AnneWimsey Typical of you to astound us with your inability to offer any intelligent commentary.

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Dear OP,
I can certainly sympathize with the distrust you have with the medical establishment regarding end-of-life care. My exes mom had basically given up when she was admitted to the Royal Liverpool Hospital. However, the programme of hastening that end was so horrific and torturous that it has since been outlawed. This involved only painkillers, with nil by mouth including water!
That said, it would be a huge mistake to throw the entire medical profession out with that bathwater. So please allow me to tell you my story;
My older brother John (71) was an anti-vaxer. (He also was a Brexiteer and Trump supporter. So we argued a lot). Now when I say anti-vaxer I mean full-on anti-vax! Whatever arguments you may have I betcha he would have 5 more. This led to us actually not speaking for over a year. And yes he took loads of vitamin D and ivermectin plus some more you might not have heard of.
Anyway, we both loved each other and learnt ways for us to agree to disagree, besides there was his eldest son's marriage to attend in Ireland this August. My daughter and her mom (Emily and Ruth) came with us and it was meant to be a lovely 4-day vacation.
Getting there was strenuous for both of us as were both old and out of shape. But the wedding was great, as was the party the next night. However, John was not feeling well so we left that party early. All night long I could see him struggling for breath and not sleeping. * (We were sharing a room). The next day he is in a bad way. No sleep and was pissed off. He said he would try and get some sleep in the comfy high-backed chair of the B&B lounge as the rest of us visited some local sites. When I came back he was sitting on his bed, half-undressed and struggling to pull up his pants. I tried to help him with these but he seemed to have no strength left in his body. All the time his breathing was getting worse and he was getting weaker. I shouted for help and Ruth got the owner to call the emergency services. The owner passed me the phone and they are talking me through stuff when the light went out of his eyes. John's heart had stopped. Luckily Ruth used to be a nurse and together we pulled him to the hotel room floor and began administering CPR between us till the paramedics arrived. I don't know exactly how long it took them from ushering me out of the room till they came out shaking their heads but it was the worst time of my life. I do remember the look on Emily's face when I told her "I don't think uncle John will be flying back with us".
As of last week, we still have not gotten the full autopsy results and cause of death but there was COVID in his system. Now you can cherry-pick the internet for all the left-field anti-establishment nuggets you like. (your choice) But it cannot erase the memory of me trying fruitlessly to pump life back into my brother's body on that hotel bedroom floor.

  • I've since discovered some of my own, unrelated health problems that stopped me from sleeping too.
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Typical conspiracy theory nonsense.
You even got the "useful idiot". saying wrong. It wasn't Lenin it was Stalin who said it and it wasn't "the left" it was people who supported his murderous dictatorship in the Soviet Union. We have a few "useful idiots" who post on here in support of Putin.

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Sounds like a lot of anti-vax gobbledygook: long on drama and short on evidence.

There is plenty of evidence available to those that are willing to read through the data and medical literature from around the world.

@BDair The standard for dissemination of information regarding the safety and efficacy of vaccines is publication of peer-reviewed articles in reputable scientific journals. Your post falls well short of that standard.

@BDair Your initial post was long enough. We don't need anymore

@Alienbeing I will try to offer shorter posts for those with limited attention spans.

@BDair It is not the attention span it is your boring style of prose.

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And exactly What The Fuckery are you expounding..Anti-vaxx claptrap? Or the World Wide Fascism movement.. which btw, Trumptyhumpty was The headliner for one in Spain..

In case you are unaware, the 'vaccines' have been proven to not provide any protection from infection or transmission. And they have been implicated in many adverse reactions and thousands of deaths. If pointing that out to people makes me an 'anti- vaxxer', then I will wear that moniker proudly. Or, whatever it is you were going on about.

You do know that trump likes the vaccine? And you do know this post was about the loss of a child? But you are so politically hyperbolic like Alex Jones can be that ,you just disrespected that child's death ..but I'm sure you rationalize it.

I feel bad for you ,I think you been programmed.. and I don't think it's going to be easy for you to deprogram yourself... It's sad really how you got programmed to be like this ,you're better than that ... Hope you get better

It looks like a fairly severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome, where everything you disagree with must be tied to Trump some how, and a bit of indoctrination with the Vaccine Apologist Dogma. Both cases demonstrate a lack of objective critical thinking.

@BDair have major issues with any Fascist like Trumptyhumpty..I also have have issues with idiots that attempt to tie vaccines with deaths that are problematic. Here's my question are You vaxxed against Polio or did Mommy think it would kill you to get it?

Are you obtuse enough to believe that a polio vaccine has any relationship with an experimental mRNA biologic, not a vaccine by definition, that has not completed clinical trials and was never trialed to see if it prevents transmission?

@BDair not at all..are you so gullible to believe that mNRAs weren't tested prior to being ok'd,by the CDC, prior to distribution..or are you relying on YouTube "research specialists"?

You are misinformed. None the mRNA platform biologics completed their safety and efficacy trials, and they never will because they unblinded the participants and vaccinated most of their control group. This is an unprecedented breach of protocol. Their trials were proven to be a complete sham. The FDA and all of the other alphabet agencies are completely captured by the pharmaceutical industry, and they never did any of their own research. They just publish Pfizer's press releases without any scrutiny.

@BDair do you have a link to a legit website to prove these accusations?

Yes, I can offer you plenty of information, data, and medical literature.
Here are some interesting points for consideration published in the British Medical Journal.
'Covid-19 vaccines: In the rush for regulatory approval, do we need more data?'
[bmj.com]

@BDair thanks..

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And those same people would not for one moment take that parent home and look after them.

We do not have any idea what their personal circumstances were, but certainly millions of people find themselves in no position to care for their aging parents on a daily basis..

@BDair Millions of people are happy to put their parents into aged care homes and then whine about how those homes are run.

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