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The couple in question almost divorced divorced once before; 620,000 soldiers died.

Flyingsaucesir 8 Oct 29
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The diff is that now, if the fascists want to start a civil war, we do not have tens or hundreds of thousands who are willing to fight and risk death to stop them. At best, the law enforcement and military will stand down and let them fight unabated against their political enemies.

Not too sure about that. There are people who will stand up.

@Flyingsaucesir We will see, but if it comes to civil war, I am not going to trust the cops with my life, same with the military. Too many of both groups are already authoritarian types who side with the right wing and Trump.

@TomMcGiverin The police and military have been infiltrated, that is a fact. To what degree is unknown. We hope it's not too significant.

@Flyingsaucesir Only time and them being put to the test of a civil war will tell, but I think the degree of infiltration is very significant, probably more than half of the members, maybe more than that.

@TomMcGiverin Definitely hope you're wrong about that!

@Flyingsaucesir We'll find out soon enough, won't we? I'm not going to wait around to find out by watching a civil war start and then waiting for the authorities to protect me. I will buy my gun and arm myself as soon as the war is imminent.

@TomMcGiverin Like 2 to 5 yesrs (?)

@Flyingsaucesir I think that is an accurate time frame. If it ever happens in my lifetime, it will happen within that time frame.

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I would run from that s**t show too.

Betty Level 8 Oct 29, 2022
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This would be funny if it was not an existential crisis, but it is. The GOP has retreated from reality because reality has become a litany of doom, and every move they have made to seize and control what is possible just leaves them with fewer options. From Trump, there is no place to go but apocalypse, and no way out. Our only hope is that the GOP retires to a convenient lunatic asylum, the Dems become the conservative option, and the DSA becomes the liberal party. There no room for crazy in government.

And the Democratic Party does actually constitute a fairly conservative party. MAGA Republicans are radical in a way that can only end in disaster.

@Flyingsaucesir Truth. MAGAts are no better than a death cult.

The DSA and the Greens are the only parties in the US that actually represent me on policy, but as long as the DSA keeps hitching its wagon to the Dems and expecting they can reform or influence them from within the Dem Party, they will get nowhere, same as Bernie. I really wish the DSA would seriously try to unite with the Greens and give us an actual third party, call it a Justice Party or Workers Party, whatever, and kick the Dems to the curb, the way they have deserved to be for decades..

@TomMcGiverin They could be the second party if the GOP continues to commit seppuku.

@alliwant I wish you were right about that. Instead, I see the Repubs taking power for good and eliminating elections, and going full on dictatorship and fascism, game over, no more even the pretense of democracy we have now. You see the Repubs committing suicide, while I see them on the path to total and permanent victory and rule.

@TomMcGiverin We have the numbers, and the brains. We might have to be more thorough than we were in the 1860s.

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When the Republicans do not want reconciliation and will consistently disparage the Democrats because they themselves have no agenda to make things better, there can never be cooperation.

Republicans have already stated that they will not work with Democrats.

Yup, one side is stepping out, and it ain't the Dems.

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It is funny, but sad. This is going to be a really messy divorce if we keep up this way.

No shit.

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