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I have slight reservations about Humanism as a movement, but this promo from the British Humanist Society puts their case very well.

Fernapple 9 Nov 22
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IMHO, it is high time that religious indoctrination was vigorously countered with secular education. We should be challenging religion at every turn, whenever and wherever it raises its ugly head.

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Please note that the BHA no longer exists with that name . In re-branding, it has become Humanists(UK) and is even more logical and progressive in many fields

Thank you. I get their email news letters, though I am not a member, so I do know that but sometimes I forget.

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Ignore your rights and they will go away.
You can do it alone

You are very brave to go against history by going it alone

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Solid

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I was warned about humanism many years ago and the warning came from yet another ism. In my case it was Pentecostal ism. Almost every semi-religious belief comes out as an ism. My point is that I do not need a club or organization to back me or give me directions and support. Once this happens you might have a creed or something that you go by. None of this is for me.

With respect we do actually all believe in something even if it is Popeye and spice in foods. What is wrong with formally telling people what that list is . I have received benefit from airing my opinions and of course accept that mine are changing all the time. One also does have to put up with making a few enemies but that is the nature of Human change - I just wish it wasn't so confrontational, having clearer statements of belief.

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I don't like organized "beliefs". My atheism is personal to me.

And you are welcome, you are just as free to keep your atheism private, as people are welcome to keep their religion private if they wish. (Though they often don't.) But I think that we do have to be greatful, to those secularists who are willing to organize, since government and the media mainly only respect organized oppinions, and without some organized voice, we give the debate, and the lions share of the power, to the religions by default.

@Fernapple We take power away from them by ignoring them.

@barjoe Yes your situation in the US is the exact opposite of ours here of course. In that, in the US the churches have a lot of popular support, but, in theory at least, no political power, and are using their popular base to push for political power. Where here in the UK they have a lot of historical political power, but almost no popular support, and they are trying to use that political power to win popular support.

Mr trump has shown us how false and organised beliefs can be dangerous but not all of them are in his league. Society is still progressing despite Donald possibly being woken up by the atrocities he has dared to uncover. He is a big blip and fooler in History , but he will soon be history himself

@Fernapple A good "summing up".

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I’ve never been motivated to join the BHA…however I can see the point they make of needing some cohesive voice which can represent the “secular’ view in debates regarding societal issues. Particularly as a counter-balance to the religious views which are often given more weight than they deserve in our ever increasingly secular society.

I called on the services of a Humanist celebrant to officiate at my son’s funeral at the crematorium and was very satisfied with the way she interacted with us and arranged the ceremony.

Yes I agree about the need not to basically give up the floor to religions in all issues, just by default, being very important.

I am glad to hear that you were well pleased with the celebrant, I have no personal experience with them, but I do know that the religious/Christian celebrants vary a great deal , and I have gone to services where to whole thing was very bad indeed, even after you allowed for the Christian content. I would imagine that the Humanist celebrants may well be more conscientious, and are more likely to put in the effort needed, to create something which really refers to the departed's life in a meaningful way.

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