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I was hit today with a realization of why a lot of people will not: exercise, quit smoking, cease drinking, eat a healthy diet, or do any of the other things that seem reasonable for ensuring that life is better and even longer. "God has your ticket, and when he decides your time's up, he'll call you home." That's a quote from a woman on transit. She's probably not any older than I am but looks an absolute wreck and was peeved b/c the store from which she wanted to buy her cigarillos couldn't find the key to the tobacco goods box. So she left without them, saying she had a supply at home. I remarked that giving up smoking was probably the best thing thing she could do for her health, having just read an article in the the WaPo that morning about it, and BAM-she enlightens me. Now I understand a LOT more about the strange bad habits of people. Why bother to give up smoking or do anything that is proactively healthy if this is truly the way you think? It might even work against your belief-system maybe, offend the deity somehow by making him think you've got ideas above your station or something. Idk. I just never encountered this. But now I know.

BookDeath 8 Apr 30
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You have insight into one person's views. That's not enough to make assumptions concerning lots of people. I'm sure there are fringe fanatics who believe crap like that, but you can't extrapolate data from a sample size of one.

JimG Level 8 May 1, 2018
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Belief in a better life after this one is part of it but far from the whole story... Addiction and behavior psychology are pretty interesting and there are many of us who are unable to control our impulses. People are unable to get past an impulse and look at the long term, much like how most people are terrible with money because they spend on impulse then struggle to make ends meet. Some people have no issue with impulse control and that is why people who don't do drugs tend to have a more stable financial life. They are just better at controlling their impulses. Some people can manage both and most people struggle with it. I boils down to us being animals evolved over millions of years and only having cognition stacked on top of that for a stupidly small fraction of our evolutionary history. It may be hard to see the lines I've connected but I can expand on it some other time.

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These people are plain nuts.

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Two points - first I have often said there would be fewer wars if leaders were required to be atheist. Religious leaders can con themselves that those that lose their lives have a "better" place to go.

Second, some just don't care if they die. Some because they are going to "heaven" and others because the idea of nothingness is appealing.

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Then you have the opposite attitude, the "God-gave-me-this-body(life-planet-whatever)-and-it's-a-sacred-gift-so-I-need-to-respect-and-show-thanks-to-God-by-taking-care-of-it" type.

They can both be "Biblically verified." So how do you choose? Which one's "correct"? Stymies me.

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Yeah, it's not just the religious. I smoke. Can't stand that I do. Tried quitting many times, and will keep trying until I make it stick or die trying. Here's the thing though. Telling me I should quit gets a mind your business type reaction, and telling me it's dangerous gets a so's driving or something similar. Addicts are cornered animals and lash out at the first sign of an attack, even if done out of genuine concern.

d_day Level 7 Apr 30, 2018

#1. Know you are addicted.
#2. You need to have a real reason to quit.
#3. You need to rely only on yourself to do it.
#4. Keep smokes close, like in the fridg.
#5. Decide not to smoke a cigarette .. every time ...
realize you will still want a cigarette for years. But it gets easier..

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