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FINDING OR CREATING MEANING IN LIFE, pART i

I will begin this discussion by asserting that human life has no inherent meaning. It is simply a biological fact. All of us want to find or create meaning in our lives, but he question is how do we do that.

Many people seem to give up on the question and simply stumble though life primarily governed by attempts to gratify whatever urge itches us Others see life as simply a struggle for survival and focus on surviving at all costs. But acting in such a manner laves one stumbling through life simply reacting to external events impinging on them and/or by attempting to control and use other people.

Still others give n to the appeal of political or religious total system ideologies (those which purport to include an explain everything. They attempt to align themselves with the “truth” and giving themselves over to the ideology, to its purveyors, and to the membership in the body of “true believers.” Either fortunately or unfortunately, those of who think for ourselves find that unsatisfying.

Still others try to find meaning in the amassing of fortunes, attainment of status or of political power. and/or the constant assuaging of one’s ego by any and all means. But those, by themselves, are hollow pursuits and lave one wondering, “Is that all there is?”

If none of those belief systems and/or ways of behaving create meaning in our lives, the question remains; “What does?” I will try to answer that question in Part II.

wordywalt 9 Jan 15
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Surely the answer is simply to make your own meaning as best you can. You will never run out of choices [many will disagree with this but it is true] unless you come under the power or tentacles of a dictator.

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French existentialism

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[...everybody] wants to find meaning? i just want to be safe, warm, & left alone, have done for Decades now.......

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You assume too much, like saying "all of us" which is clearly a generalization used mostly by dimwits, do yourself a favor, stop being wordy and quit posting inane crap, much less several parts of them.

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In my view, the answer to your question was included in your question .....

Humans are the only animal on earth that seems to need purpose or meaning. Coincidently, humans are the only animal on earth capable of creating purpose or meaning.

Hence, if you feel you lack purpose or meaning .... go make some!!

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Does the discussion consider consciousness? So far, nobody has mentioned the word.

Ryo1 Level 8 Jan 16, 2023

Forget it. A rabbit hole.

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This is commonly held by those that give up religion but I disagree. The meaning of LIFE (write large to include all life) is to evolve. I believe we humans evolve through knowledge (real not imagined) and we gain knowledge through learning. Unfortunately, what some believe in learning (conspiracy theories for one) actually cause us to devolve.

So if we don't accept the official narratives our lying Federal government officials provide to us, we're conspiracy theorist? Is that what you're saying?

@Mickey ????

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I prefer to keep it simple.
My purpose is whatever I decide it's going to be, on any given day.
Some days, there is no need for any at all.
As another member, @jlynn, likes to say,
"do no harm".
I tend to apply that as I move through life.
I eschew outside influences as much as possible, and prefer to make up my own mind based on what I want.

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In a simple sense life does not have a meaning nor does it require one, life is its own meaning and with or without us, it continues. I have heard people talk as though there is some definitive purpose or point of arrival when it will all be revealed. Meaningful actions may be found in the simple day to day things.

It may be fun chasing after some goal; something that you think will make you happy, if it does, then you are fortunate. Find something that you love to do and there will be no lack of meaning in your life.

Alana Watts said it all begins in kindergarten from where you graduate to 1st grade and slowly it begins to rev up. As you pass through high school and college the pace increases and then on to university for a degree followed by master’s degree, then you go out into the world and get a job working for some insurance company where you are given a quota to meet. You get to 45 – 50 and retire heaving a sigh of relief at having “arrived” and for a few brief moments you feel good and then you realize that you were cheated for you missed the show all along.

Yes, chasing too hard for goals and dreams can end up a disappointment. When you do love your work, it has more possibilities to master life. Dreams and goal do help when they are used with discipline and consistency.

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It is up to each of us to find our purpose and meaning in life. It would be nice if what we find is also what we like to do but many of us are not that lucky. We get sidetracked by nonsense.

I had a very wise HR person tell me most people seek and need emotional fulfillment. Some people find it in their home life, some find it in the professional life, some find it in both while others never find it, but to be minimally happy, we need to find it somewhere or our lives are miserable and purposeless and those people who never find it or seek it, tend to make others life as miserable as they can.

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Very good. Here for what it is worth, ( Not much.) is my view, which is a joke.

When we realize that there are no big, god given, purposes in life, demanding our obedience. And the many completely contradictory purposes, offered by the many different religions, prove that to be so. Then we can easily see, that wanting any big purpose at all, is merely a vanity and narcissism. The failings which are the trade of religion. For if you build up the vanities of people, then they will, obey you, pay you, and praise you, for as long as you keep flattering and confirming those vanities, over and over again.

Yet atheists often say in reply to the theist's question. “What is the purpose of life, if there is no god ?” That, by being none religious, we are free to choose our own purposes. Though admittedly they must by definition be small personal ones, meaning that in the deepest sense, atheism, agnosticism and deism are inevitably, by their nature, mainly philosophies of humility.

Yet here for fun is the irony. Suppose for one second, hypothetically, for arguments sake, that there is a creator, an intelligence behind the universe, though one who has not revealed any purpose to us yet, perhaps a deist creator at most. Then what can we discern, if anything, is most likely to be pleasing to it, if pleasing it has any value at all ? Well after the usual if doubtful, givens, such as, be kind, the only thing I think that seems likely, is that we should appreciate its creation as much as possible, down to the smallest detail. Valuing and treasuring all that we are given. And what are we doing when we create our own small purposes, whether, we climb mountains, garden, paint pictures, entertain our pets, make a coffee for a friend or help in a charity shop, if not appreciating that creation, or nature, down to the smallest detail, and valuing it enough to care for it, environmentalism. Perhaps therefore being an atheist could after all, be the most pleasing of all things to the hypothetical creator.

Now forget the hypothetical creator, since it has now done its job, and what are you left with ? That the small things are the biggest things there are, because they demand the greatest appreciation of you, and it is when you turn your back on the idea of great purpose that you come nearest to your greatest purpose. And when you forget god that you are most likely to please god. So you see that in the end, my deepest thoughts lead to an ironic joke. Nice joke perhaps ? Yes, but I was also never more serious.

And is this my original philosophy ? No, I don't think so, for at the very least the Greek philosopher Epicurus more than twenty centuries ago wrote. “Bring me a pot of cheese and I will feast.” And. “Don't over think it.”

I do like the way you think. 🙂

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Wise Wordy Walt 🙂

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