The debt ceiling is only a problem when a Democrat is in the white house! All of a sudden, the country needs to rein in spending! If Biden has any balls he will call their bullshit for what it is. I hope he does nothing and let them not raise the debt ceiling. It would show Americans how fucked up these rethuglicans are! And that they are willing to destroy the credit rating of the US government for political gain. But Biden will most likely submit to their blackmail in some form is my guess. That is what I expect from the anybody but Trump President. And he'll claim to be saving the country from a default while the rethuglicans will have blackmailed themselves some budget cuts they can claim as a win.

I am really tired of this whole discussion, paying the fucking bills that we have run up and stop trying to convince the country the dems are the problem.

It's in our Constitution for fuck sake - first in Article 1 Section 8 and reiterated in the 14th Amendment Section 4.
'The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.'

The budget discussions is where we do the arguing NOT the debt ceiling.

So if and when the country starts to default on it's debt, the blame will be placed directly on the Republican party. This party seem determined to shoot itself in both feet. Isn't it strange (not) when Democrats are in power it suddenly is about debt but when republicans come along that topic is suddenly absent?

Republicans always want to balance the budget on the backs of the poor. However a good portion of the national debt resulted directly from cutting taxes for the rich and for corporations. Another large portion was caused by George W. Bush, a republican, who started two wars without coming up with any way to pay for them other than borrowing more money. If the wars were based on facts and not fictional "weapons of mass destruction" then perhaps the wars may have a chance of being justified as an expense, but they were based in lies.

I remember how Ronald Reagan promised to lower the national debt by elimination government waste. Instead he increased spending, increased taxes on the middle class and working poor, while reducing taxes for the rich and corporations. For the last 40 years, every republican has increased deficit spending, while every democrat has reduced deficit spending. Under the Clinton Administration, through the National Assessment project, he did what Reagan promised, by evaluating how the government spent money and changed how things were done and saved so much money that for the last two years of his term(s), the budget had a surplus. What was the republican response to a budget surplus? At that time they cautioned about paying down the national debt too quickly!

So, history has shown us that at least over the last 40 years, democrats are more fiscally responsible than republicans, but every time a democrat is president, republicans claim "spending is out of control", when it was their own spending that got out of control.

In short republicans spend like drunken sailors when they are in power, but when democrats take control they blame the debt accumulated by republicans on the democrats.

That's why LLC stands for limited liability company, so the owners can't be held personally responsible for any harm they cause. It's easy to set up an LLC. I had one when I owned a small apartment building. Fortunately, no one was ever harmed there. I sold it because I didn't make that much money from it, due to being a nice landlord and taking care of my tenants. The next owner wasn't so nice, but he made money.

Isn't it funny how many "Christians," think it is wrong to give help to poor people