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I spend a lot of time in self-reflection, one of the joys of retirement and not being driven to keep busy. I have realized over the past year, though I was aware before, that unlike most people, I worship nothing! I will bring it up here, because as agnostics and atheists, I thought this might be the only place I can find like-minded people or at least understanding. Or maybe I will be wrong, but since it is kind of anonymous, I won’t be attacked for my feelings. And it’s kind of nice just being able to think out loud and put it on paper.
Not only do I not worship a god, I don’t worship people. I don’t consider myself a fan of anything or anyone! I have no band or singer that I follow, no sports teams of any kind, no artists, poets or super models that I pine over. No car brand, food type or music that I can’t do without. My stepson, became a sports fan after my wife left me for another guy who got him interested in sports once asked me who my favorite teams were. His were the Green Bay Packers, New York Yankees and the Boston Bruins (thankfully he wasn’t a big basketball fan). I told him I didn’t follow any teams, the only one I cared about was whichever one he was playing on. He played soccer for a few years (I coached his team three seasons) and then decided he liked ice hockey better (thankfully I didn’t know enough about that to coach!) for his last four years of school (his mom’s idea). I was at most all of his games (both high school and rink traveling teams). And I enjoyed watching the kids play, but have no interest in going to watch a game he isn’t playing in.
The same with music. I don’t even have a favorite kind of music. I have been going through my entire CD collection lately and find that I have and enjoy everything from classical, jazz, rock, hard rock, folk, pop, electronic, punk, easy listening and even foreign language. The only music I don’t care for are opera, and twang country. But I have no particular artists I rave about, no particular genre. Movies kind of the same. I know what I don’t like (horror, sci-fy, musicals), but enjoy most everything else and don’t seek out any one type when looking for something to watch. Or any particular actor.
Anyway, that thought that been on my mind. Any other non-fanatics out there in Agnostic.com land?

Barnie2years 8 Feb 5
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Sounds like an incurable case of normal.

Sometimes it doesn’t feel like it.

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Self reflection and getting feedback from others is good. Helps us understand ourselves and others better.

I don't think "worship" is healthy. I can't think of anything or anyone I worship. I do highly regard several people, I admire several others. I'm in awe of some of the talented people I get to be around. There are local bands and musicians I make a point of enjoying live, when I can, for the energy they evoke in the listeners and dancers.

Great speakers and writers are a wonderful inspiration for me. Teachers have all my respect too, the good ones anyway, as well as doctors and health care workers. Lots of positive feelings toward people, things and places, but I can't call it worship.

I'm definitely not a fan of any sports team or individual athletes. Good for them to reach their goals, but I just think there are better ways to spend time and money. They also give their fans a group to belong to, creating a bond many people need and fodder for conversation among strangers. Great. It's not for me though. If I see someone wearing a Seahawks t-shirt here in Hawaii, I do feel obligated to say "Go Hawks" to let them know I'm originally from Seattle, but I've never actually watched a game, haha!

I used to be quite patriotic, for I loved what our country stood for, if we actually lived up to our potential. I do hope someday we move forward toward a better future, not backward. I wouldn't say patriotism is worship, maybe loyalty to some extent. Nationalism can be a dangerous thing! I really do wish all the countries of the world could get along together, and that requires an end to nationalism.

I think to worship is to see the object of that worship to be infallible. I'm not sure anything is infallible, except maybe time and nature. Fallibility requires a conscience. Nature seems to always be striving for a balance, or the natural consequence to a situation, whether man-made or otherwise. Even when there is a natural disaster which causes destruction, there is also possibility for new life, fresh start, always moving forward seemingly.

The only thing I can really count on is that time and nature will continue to work in unison with space and matter, with our life forms as a product. They don't need worship, they will continue to do their thing whether we care or not. I do think that understanding nature and learning to work with it for the best overall outcome is smart. For that we need education and science.

Should we worship learning then? Maybe too much learning isn't good either for a person either, as there needs to be some balance, at least for me. If I were to worship anything, maybe it would be balance, peace, and a vision toward harmony. These are things lacked previously in my life, so maybe that's why I lean toward them now. Still don't think "worshiping" anything is good, but setting certain people, places, things and ideas as important can be. Giving too much attention to one thing, means sacrificing attention to other things, which I don't think is good.

Well, that's my sputtering of jumbled thoughts swirling around in my head, before I hit the hay for the night. Long day, too much work and not enough balance!

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I can relate to most of that. There IS some music I like better than others, but I am not exclusively “into” anything in any aspect of living. Although I very much avoid anything that contains violence.

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Well I am required to be a Packer fan as I own the team. Music disturbs me. I prefer documentaries to movies.. Worship? I worship nature as nature has most of the answers to my questions. Worship implies deity and deity is an attempt to explain the uncomfortable inexplicable. I think dogs are the closest thing to a deity that I could comfortably worship, but I don't worship other than to restore the wild.

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I have no loyalty to brands or sports teams, or even any kids that would "cause" some loyalty.

I like certain certain bands' songs, but not because it's by them, but rather my brain finds individual songs pleasing. So technically no loyalty there, either. (I imagine that's true for everyone, though. Do people really listen to songs they dislike simply because they like the person who sings it??)

The same is true for movies and TV. If something's good, it's good, if it's not, it's not. Doesn't matter who made it or who's in it. Are there people who don't behave in this manner?

For sure there are songs that I relate to or just enjoy. I recently went through my entire CD collection and found that I could remember the words of songs I hadn't listened to in decades. And I do enjoy the music certain bands and singers produce, but I don't "follow" them in any way. I just enjoy their music.

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There are people like you. At least one. I can relate to everything you wrote.

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Pretty much like you, I actually wonder if there is any such thing as "worship", or if it is just a polite synonym for obsession.

I was going to say, that the only thing that I worship, is nature and the material world we live in. But I think that worship, is really a negative thing, which implies an excessive concentration on one thing, to the exclusion of all others, including reasonable balance. Therefore being in love with most things, a generalist, is the opposite of worship, and a healthy form of love, which is perhaps better termed "reverence". Worship could well be just a form of laziness, or cowardliness, an unwillingness to engage with the greater part of life, because it is easier to turn inward. And if that is so, then the worshiper misses a lot.

I think that people who think to themselves. I can try to enjoy and love, anything anybody else can enjoy and love, are rewarded by the richest lives, and enjoy real wealth of experience. Though I do not claim to be very good at appreciation, only that I think it worth some effort.

Well said. 🙂

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