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This came across my social media feed this morning. It seems to be crafted using another imagined conversation for inspiration. I think it presents some great answers for when we are asked similar questions by believers. What do you think?

Professor: You’re an atheist, aren’t you, son?

Student: Yes, sir.

Professor: So, you don’t believe in God?

Student: That’s correct, sir.

Professor: Do you believe in science?

Student: Absolutely.

Professor: Then you believe science has all the answers?

Student: No, sir. Science doesn't have all the answers. It’s a process of asking questions, testing, and refining our understanding. But it’s the best tool we have for understanding reality.

Professor: What about morality, then? Can science tell us what is good and bad, right and wrong?
Student: Not directly, sir. Science informs us about the consequences of actions and the impact they have, but morality is a product of human reasoning, shaped by empathy, culture, and societal needs.

Professor: So, you agree that without a higher power like God, morality is just relative, isn’t it?

Student: Morality evolves, yes, just like our understanding of the world. But that doesn’t make it arbitrary. It’s based on reason, compassion, and the desire to live peacefully with others. We don’t need a deity to tell us that harming others is wrong.

Professor: So, where does evil come from then? If there's no God, how do you explain the existence of evil, suffering, and cruelty in the world?

Student: Evil isn’t a thing in itself, sir. It’s a label we place on actions that cause harm. People make choices, and those choices can be influenced by their biology, psychology, and environment. But these are human actions, not the result of some cosmic force.

Professor: But don’t you see, without God, there’s no ultimate justice. The wicked can get away with their deeds. Isn’t that a problem?

Student: That’s an emotional argument, sir, not a logical one. We may wish for ultimate justice, but that doesn’t mean it exists. That’s why we have laws, societal norms, and institutions. We try to create justice ourselves, imperfect as it may be.

Professor: If you can't explain everything through science, doesn't that open the door to faith in something higher? Isn’t it possible there’s something beyond our understanding?

Student: Of course, it’s possible there are things we don’t understand. But saying “God did it” doesn’t answer the question; it stops the inquiry. Science encourages us to keep asking, to seek evidence and explanations, not to fill gaps in our knowledge with faith.

Professor: So, you believe in evolution?

Student: Yes, the evidence overwhelmingly supports evolution as the process by which life has developed on Earth.

Professor: But have you ever seen evolution happening, son? Have you observed it directly?

Student: No, sir, not in the sense of watching a species evolve over millennia. But we observe small-scale evolutionary changes all the time — like bacteria developing resistance to antibiotics. The fossil record, genetic evidence, and observable biological processes all point to evolution.

Professor: So you’re asking me to trust scientists who say they have evidence but whom you’ve never met. Isn’t that faith?

Student: It’s not faith in the religious sense. It’s trust in a method that has proven reliable. Science is transparent — the data is out there, the methods are repeatable, and anyone can verify the results if they wish. That’s different from taking something on faith without evidence.

Professor: But how do you deal with the big questions? Like, why are we here? What’s the purpose of life?
Student: Those are important questions, sir, but they don’t need supernatural answers. Life has no intrinsic purpose given by an external force. We give it meaning through our experiences, relationships, and contributions to the world. We create our own purpose.

Professor: So, what happens after death then? Without God, isn’t death just the end?

Student: As far as we know, yes, death is the end of consciousness. That’s why this life, the one we have now, is so important. Instead of focusing on what comes after, we should focus on making the most of our time here, with the people we care about.

Professor: You seem very certain in your beliefs, but isn’t that just another kind of faith?

Student: No, sir. I’m open to changing my views if evidence suggests otherwise. That’s what sets science and atheism apart from faith — they’re flexible and based on what we can observe and understand. It’s not about certainty; it’s about being willing to question everything, including our own assumptions.

Professor: So, you don’t claim to have all the answers?

Student: Exactly. I don't claim to know everything, but I do know that curiosity, critical thinking, and evidence lead to progress. And that’s where I place my trust.

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Julie808 8 Oct 21
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Example of evolution in my lifetime and seen by me:
When I was a kid 1950's, the highways were littered with dead squirrels, every day, they were Notorious for getting in the road, perceiving a car coming, and dithering around, back and forth, until the driver pretty much could not miss them.
Nowadays, there are far less dead squirrels on the road...you can easily observe that they run straight across as fast as they can, no wdithering.
In 50-ish years the ditherer-ing has been removed from their DNA, the "run straight across" gene has triumphed.

African Elephants have smaller tusks today than they had only a few decades ago, due to illegal poaching of larger-tusked individuals. The genes for larger tusks are now far less common in the elephant gene pool.

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Actually, evolution in real time has been measured and documented in hundreds of species more complex than bacteria, e.g. fish, reptiles, birds, insects, mammals,...

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Seems this 'professor' is not asking questions but trying to steer one toward their way of thinking. All the items they pose are basically anthropocentric in nature. Humans don't determine ultimate morality, good, evil and justice are not and should not be about what one species thinks as right and fair.
Yes, we do see evolution at work all around us. At this time we see evolution constantly, in our technology, our culture, our social norms and on. It has been shown even our, some people's anyway, are changing and we're getting a hump on our back from constantly looking at our cell phones. [washingtonpost.com] It is said, for the theory of evolution to be nullified someone will have to discover a Prius type vehicle buried for ages.
The final question: Professor: So, you don’t claim to have all the answers, is more of a statement than a question as this person seems to claim they have the answers, hence the questionnaire.

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I have been asked quite a few of those questions! However, this is totally unrealistic because if a prof grilled a student like this, he/she would be called on the carpet.

I'm sure it's just an imagined conversation, with the student having pretty good answers to the professor's questions.

@Julie808 I overlooked the "imagined" conversation in your post! Mea culpa! As a teacher, it amuses me when I see purported "feedback" to students on papers, i.e. the one where the student supposedly asked why the grade was so low and the instructor ripped the student apart. If this happened at any of my schools, the teacher would be severely reprimanded. We cannot hurt the tender psyches of college/uni students (read that as "if we do, they might go to another school" ),

About a decade ago, after the first day of a new semester, I had a student "report" me to my department chair because of what I supposedly said about the tattoos of moons on my hand. A student asked if they had any meaning, and I replied that I taught mythology and was greatly interested in myth. I explained that moons are related to goddesses in many/most cultures.

Another student complained to my chair that I said personal opinions of religion could not be expressed in the classroom and that all religions and no religion had the same respect. The student said that after stating this, I discussed my tattoos for no reason and said that they represented my "spirituality."

My chair said I should not have brought up the tattoos and though he "knew" I was pagan and respected that, I should not have discussed my beliefs in class. I wrote back informing him that a student specifically asked about the tattoos and that it was great that he "respected" my "religion," but he was going to have to respect that I was an atheist and had no religion/spirituality. He apologized on both counts.

The students was seeking to have me fired or, at best, severely reprimanded. Even though I did NOT say I was atheist, he knew I wasn't Christian. That was the last seated class I taught--I went all online, in part, because there is a written record of what I "say" to students. I document everything.

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I don’t let anyone talk to me like this so I don’t need to have answers for these type of gotcha questions that believers have asked over and over again like they are supposed to change my mind.

I just say GTFOH. It’s not the Dark Ages. I don’t have to justify myself to some dumb ass who still believes in a sky daddy in 2024 when we have a telescope in deep space showing how huge the multiverse is and historical and scientific research that shows their stupid Bronze Age fairy tales were just borrowed from earlier myths and fabricated as a scam to control people and to justify misogyny and tribalism.

I’m not made of mud, I don’t have fewer ribs than a man. I’m not inherently evil and don’t need some pedophile man in a goofy outfit to tell me how to live.

I also get the what do you celebrate at Christmas and Easter question which I will answer. I celebrate Winter Solstice and the growing season of the first full moon after Spring Equinox.

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Very wise student.

Professor: I think that you should be doing my job.

Student: If I did not know your leading questions were penned for two fictional characters, I would agree.

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