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How do people feel about deleting or rewriting certain words in old books? The obvious one being the N word in books over a hundred years old. The reason I ask is that I was on a page on FB and someone used the word lynched and was immediately scolded and told not to use the word as America had a bad history with lynching. Personally I find this bizarre why erase the past can't we learn from it . Yes it was wrong but denying it happened is surly ya the best way to repeat our mistakes ?

Simon1 7 May 21
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That person was incorrect. 'Lynched' is not hate speech and it is not tied to a 'race'.

'Lynching' describes an action, it is not derogatory language. That person is an idiot for conflating the word with American history.

lynch

verb
(of a group of people) kill (someone) for an alleged offence without a legal trial, especially by hanging.
"her father had been lynched by whites"
synonyms: hang, hang by the neck;

Yeah I know it was one of the ladies I referred to on my other post ...bit of an extremist

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I believe it's called revisionist history, and George Orwell wrote about it and it's downfalls at great length in his novel, 1984.

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Yes I prefer the past to be preserved as well as us carrying on to a better sort of future then at least we do get a comparison and reference points.

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Changing historical writings is a tactic of a government or society that wants to control your thoughts. Lynching and nigger are words. If you're able to be hurt by mere words, I pity you.

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Agreed...we can't re-write it even if we try...all we can do is try to learn from it...which it doesn't seem like we're doing. We're going backward currently, not forward.

Maybe it's because of all the denying of what happened and judging by these comments it's the younger generation doing that (well the younger people I spoke to on Feb and the ones protesting in universities)

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I’m against censorship of any kind. Anyone can say anything as far as I’m concerned. I don’t believe I have the right to not be offended.

KenG Level 6 May 21, 2018
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What was the context of using the word lynching? If it were used as a trivial metaphor for something that it has nothing to do with and whining on behalf of someone who was clearly not literally lynched (eg “they’re lynching trump, it’s a witch hunt!” ) I could see objecting to it. Lynchings happened though and if it’s mentioned in a serious light of trying to discuss race inequality or the problems with vigilante “justice” then I don’t see the problem. I don’t think old books need to be revised for sensitivity’s sake either. However, if I were asked to read a passage from Huck Finn aloud to the class I think I’d insist on calling him simply “Jim” ?

A group I was a member of on Fb I can't remember exactly what was written but it was along the lines of " this is my opinion but I won't get into details as I know I will get lynched by the rest of the group " that didn't seem offensive to me

@Simon1 eh, it’s a little trivializing to the experience to throw it around like that as a metaphor in today’s parlance. It’s a serious enough topic that if you’re gonna bring it up you should literally be talking about it. It’s a little bit like walking into a bunch of Christians n sayin whoa dude don’t crucify* me! Or saying to a bunch of Jews don’t gas me over this but... get what I mean? I mean I’m not always as PC as I could be but I can see why they’d take it as bein a little shitty of a reference.

*except this shit actually happened, recently enough that people’s parents n grandparents remember it. And a looooot. If you’ve never looked into the history of lynchings in the south you should look into it. There are some sobering photographs of “strange fruit” hanging in the trees. ?

@Simon1 I see you’re in the UK and probably weren’t aware of the sensitivity of the topic, but yeah in the southern US, lynching was and is still a very brutal issue that most kind people won’t throw around hyperbolically. In small southern US cities mob rule justice was often practiced, where if a black man was practically accused of looking at a white woman funny, walking past dark or making eye contact with the wrong person he could be strung up without trial by a mob right in front of the courthouse with no justice. This happened as recently as the 1960s so there are still more people left alive that witnessed it than there is for the holocaust. So I’d treat the topic with similar respect. But you are forgiven. Go and sin no more my child.

@Wurlitzer it was someone from Australia. That used the reference and the person that took offense was definitely not born 60 years ago they were barely out of nappies 20 years ago .

@Simon1 well same difference lol. If it was some young white kid taking offense he was probably working too hard to virtue signal but hey a broken clocks right twice a day. Still a lesson worth learning from.

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I remember when the Harry Potter book became famous there was talks about rewriting the Narnia books and take out all the magic (because of course magic is Satan's work). Interesting thing at the time was that the Narnia books were written by CS Lewis, who also wrote Christian theology books. It never happened, but talk got so loud that I was afraid it would.

Now I'm aware that magic is quite different than the "n" word, but when you have precedent in one area it becomes easier to do it in other areas. I personally do not believe in censorship, however in rare cases it is necessary (as in hate speech). Changing a word just because the word is antiquated is not really a valid reason.

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