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It has been 4 months since I got laid off from work. Good thing I save some money but it won't last for long. In these four months I have given at least 12 interviews most of them ending with "You're overqualified for this job." Even the ones who were paying more than my previous job. Others telling me that I just am not qualified enough and when I ask the locals they tell me to leave Oklahoma because being a brown Pakistanj guy no one will prefer to hire me and everyone will be skeptical about me. I have found Broken Arrow and Tulsa very nice places. People are kind here and I really appreciate that. But how does one find work over here?

BrokenMarrow 7 May 26
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One workshop I attended, advised job seekersto tell 10 people a day that youare looking for work as many jobs are leads are found through word of mouth. These are just 10 random people you could meet anywhere - in a checkout line, at a bus stop, etc. As a shy introvert brought up to believev that it was shameful for women to work, I found this nearly impossible to do, but I force myself to. I was the first person in the workshop to get a full-time job and before the workshop was even half over.!

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I’ve moved across the US, basically from coast to coast … and the mentality I found in the middle was ..not impressive. If the responses you get are consistent, and you even sense discrimination ..get. If you’re an honest conscientious person and worker, their loss.

Far less discrimination on the coasts, and good people everywhere. Keep at it if you you feel differently … but if you’ve got people openly telling you it’s a discrimination thing, I’d listen..

Varn Level 8 May 26, 2018

I have to agree with your assessment of the 'middle'...this has been my experience too.

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Have you tried temping through an agency. Once you have your foot in the door it's amazing how often people decide you are just what they are looking for.

Kimba Level 7 May 26, 2018

I have. I have a spreadhseet of all the temp agencies which have my information. I call them at least once in two weeks to see if they have soemthing for me and they're answer is always no.

@Pullsmedown

I tried this as well, after receiving job counseling from a state program. Nothing available. Not for me.

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hang in there! Have you tried other forms of work like self employment? Be sure to cut as many costs as possible until you get work. good luck

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Are you bilingual? Moving to a place with a large population that speaks your mother tongue AND being in HR could be huge! Market that as a strength for sure.

A lot of people in Cali and New York speakd my language. I have thought avout moving but I don't have the resources to do that yet.

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May have to relocate to more diverse populated area fo rbest opportunities. Talk to a job recruiter.

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If they think you're a Muslim, that may be the problem, and if you tell them you're an agnostic/atheist, that isn't going to help either. Losing the beard might make a difference, and you can grow it back afterwards.

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There is a reason l left Oklahoma 2 days after l graduated from high school. You are right Tulsa is not bad. Varn is right about the middle of the country, change is slow to get there, very slow.

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People who are overqualified need jobs also.

"Overqualified" may mean that the person doing the hiring feels threatened that they'll end up being replaced

@ghost_warlock @Pullsmedown

This is the answer! Gtfo of Oklahoma, I say this as a kindness. I've spent 18 months in my lovely Appalachia town because I love it and didn't want to leave after earning two Master degrees. I've been turned down to clean hotel rooms and sell gas at a convenience store.

I took my degrees off my resume, and it still happens. In Boone, NC, if you are remotely close in age to a middle-aged interviewer, you will get turned down just for sounding educated. They are afraid you will take their job. I'm serious. I have to move away to get considered for a minimum wage job. I've also caught many locals holding jobs for family and friends. Get to a mid- to large size city out of the flyover states where professionalism is not dead.

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Keep plugging at it. If you've got 12 interviews in 4 months you're doing alright in terms of your resume and application. Your qualifications are on those and you're still getting interviews. If being over or underqualified were the sole reason you weren't getting those jobs, you wouldn't be getting called in. If you need to work on anything it will be interview technique. Is there anyone you can speak to locally who can give you practice and advice?

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If you are often being told that you are over-qualified, remember tha you don;t have to put all of your qualifications in your resume. You can always mention them during the interview if a relevant question is asked.

If I don't ut all of my education in my resume there will be huge gaps that would be unexplainable but I do that often. Usually I get my job interviews from linkedin and indeed so I can't alter my info over there evrytime

@Pullsmedown

Same here. Taking my degrees off my resume doesn't help because my last three jobs were at Appalachian State University. It's not like I can plug in some bullshit when those jobs have my references!

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Come to TEXAS. Bring your work clothes and your lunch. ?

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Good luck with the job search.

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I, too, have heard the "overqualified" description for longer than I can remember! Do you have connections through social or church groups that could give you leads? People with similar backgrounds often help each other. Do you have skills that you can use to be self-employed? Self-employment has always worked for me and has lead to job offers. Keep us posted!

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that sucks, I'm sorry. what industry do you work in? I recently transitioned from working in an office environment to working as a software tester/consultant for a software development company. I find the industry fairly accepting of age, gender, race, and other stuff like mental illness, transgender... we are sort of an island of misfit toys. and being a consultant allows you to work from almost anywhere, so you can stay in the community you love.

I work in human resource and office administration but I am open yo other fields as well

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Cast a wider net. Apply for positions outside your field of expertise, in industries your curious about or would like to try. Ask yourself what you minimum wage requirements are and use wages as a selling point. Expand your target area. Start a consulting business.
Good luck to you.

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I'm not going to like your post because being unemployed SUCKS! I do have a couple of comments that I hope you'll find helpful. First, as far as I know, in the good 'ol U S of A, racial discrimination, especially in employment is illegal. If you were actually told to leave the state by a prospective employer because of the color of your skin you may have a case there. I work in state government in California and have a decent job, but I need more money so I just signed up to be a Lyft rideshare driver. The income potential, even P/T is significant. If nothing else, it's something you can do to keep the cash flowing while you search for F/T employment. All you need is a fairly late-model, clean car or SUV. Something to think about. I hope this helps and sorry to hear you are dealing with this frustration on top of just trying to get a job.

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Look up the 'Reserve Army Of Labour'.

There will always be more people than jobs because governments deliberately cultivate unemployment to keep inflation low (and for other reasons too).

Don't define yourself by your employment status. I hope you will be OK. Fingers crossed for you.

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It takes time for that circumstance that will solve your problem to arise.

I spent 3 and half years looking before I solved the problem and found my current job. I was partially employed in alternative jobs but not a full time salaried employee during that time.

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i also ran up against the o word when trying to find jobs, even in as big and diverse place as caifornia. i found out why people don't just hire the most qualified person available, even if that person has more than the necessary qualifications. they're scared. they think you'll take over the company. i had one employer tell me that. first he said it was because there was no room for advancement for me and i would get bored and leave. then he implied that i would want to take over the company!

as for oklahoma... sorry, but my advise is not to leave oklahoma because of your ethnicity, but to leave oklahoma because it's oklahoma lol.

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I cannot give you any advice because I live In Ireland so I don't know the lay of the land so to speak. Just persevere do not lose heart....
I wish you good fortune.

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4 months since you got laid or laid off ? Over qualified or under qualified can refer to both ?

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