Agnostic.com

14 5

Do you feel that the current trend in universities being/having a "safe space" is detrimental or beneficial to free speech and the mission of a university to teach students all subjects, safe or not?

TheMiddleWay 8 June 3
Share

Enjoy being online again!

Welcome to the community of good people who base their values on evidence and appreciate civil discourse - the social network you will enjoy.

Create your free account

14 comments

Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.

0

I don't even like atheists who always have to attack religion. My life isn't defined by what I don't believe in and we have to live with people we don't agree with. The need to censor or annihilate opposing views will never be productive

1

Absolutely. The moment we stop allowing others to have opinions that differ to ours, we become caricatures of ourselves. The reason we keep losing elections to fascists is that we can't even cope with others who disagree with "us."

0

"Safe spaces" are detrimental to free speech. Just because people are offended, that does not make them right. And sometimes they need to be offended to grow as a person. One of the reasons that atheism exists is because we were allowed to "offend" believers by saying, we don't believe. It allowed us to break away, and allowed our societies to grow and change.

Atheists, free thinkers, liberals, etc. need to have their ideas challenged just as much as those who are conservative and are protecting the status quo. Without that challenge, bad ideas take root, even in those who claim to be skeptics and scientists. You have a person who claims to not believe in god, because there isn't enough evidence, but at the same time is an anti-vaxxer, even though there are mountains of data to show the error of that belief.

As one of my friends put it - The far Right (conservatives) want a Mad Max style world - with absolutely no controls, and the far Left (liberals/progressives) want a 1984 style world - with thought police. There has to be an answer that resides somewhere in the middle of those two options.

0

I think a meditation area or other place is a good idea, but college (and life) is about challenging yourself, your beliefs...

If your beliefs cannot withstand challenge, that's what churches are for

1

Historically, Universities have been havens for free speech and the free expression of new, unpopular and/or controversial ideas. The idea that people need to have safe spaces to shelter themselves from something that they don't agree with is problematic because it prevents the free flow of ideas.

1

Yes. That is why universities have general education requirements in the first two years -- to expose students to thoughts and subjects in a variety of areas which they might not seek on their own. Does not "safe space" mean space where one is safe from attack and undue pressure?

@TheMiddleWay The only reason that a university would avoid such topics would be a university culture which varies greatly from the proclaimed ideal of "liberal arts."

1

Somehow free speech is being challenged in schools these days. If they do not like the person they prevent them from speaking.

1

As long as it does not include hate speech. Hate speech is far more dangerous than yelling FIRE in a theater, and that is not allowed.

3

"You want to be safe - stay home with your mom" - Jordon Peterson on safe spaces.

Source:
4

Universities should be “safe” as in no violent crime.

Providing spaces safe from hurt feelings is obscene. It demonstrates to me how far Universities will go to get money out of people who have no business going to college. These Universities don’t push kids to grow up out of fear they will drop out and stop giving the school money. They deliberately confuse weakness and kindness.

3

Depends on what it is. If it's a place where one can, for example, discuss being LGBTQ or atheist or what have you without fear of abuse, then it's good. Far too often, the public sphere fails in that regard.

If it's one of those adult daycare kind of places where people can hide from the big, bad world with their crayons and puppies, then, no. We don't need that kind of thing anywhere. All it does is cause regression into childhood.

This is probably the one thing wherein I agree with conservatives-- universities should not be sanitised like this. It's where you go to be challenged, not coddled.

3

Detrimental. Life does not have safe spaces and trigger warnings. People will never learn and grow if they don't step out of their own echo chambers.

0

Detrimental....where are people going to discuss/debate things to find a middle ground and get along . All you have now is two sides shouting to be the loudest with no where to sit down and talk .

2

I believe it's bullshit.

Write Comment
You can include a link to this post in your posts and comments by including the text q:98086
Agnostic does not evaluate or guarantee the accuracy of any content. Read full disclaimer.