I know some of you will answer, "because religions turn people into dicks", I paraphrase and boil it down to a general colloquial type response.
Richard Dawkins is the poster boy for the angry atheist. Why? Probably because he is like most of us and has discovered with compounded evidence that it is stupid to believe in a crazy god, in the case of the Old Testament's JEHOVAH and the whacked GOD THE FATHER who killed his own SON. To be honest, I don't believe Jesus ever existed.
I'm not looking to bother Christians and they've learned, in short order, not to evangelize me, therefore, I am not angry at them except when they VOTE, otherwise, we get along royal because they know I am a righteous "pagan" and consigned to the First Circle of Dante's Hell.
No anger is always appreciated by everyone. If a Christian is angry at you, don't feed them. If we get angry, we are just like the anger thrown at us. In this, I am a "better" Christian than a Christian asshole.
If some atheists are angry, and some angry people are Christians does that mean that some atheists are Christians?
????that’s awesome
Lol no it's means that they're human. (snark intended)
@Nickdavison The real answer is just "no" but thanks for playing our game, lovely parting gifts. Last I checked everyone has the right to be angry--seemed like a dumb question so I added one of my own.
I can't speak for all, but I know religion is still negatively affecting me even though I've left the church. As you mentioned at the legal level which is annoying as hell. However it also has a major negative effect on my personal life.
Nearly every friend I had as a child is no longer my friend because I became an atheist.
My mother disowned me when I had just lost my job and my apartment and was a week away from being on the street. I begged her to let me stay with her for a month or two while I got back on my feet. Her exact words to me were "letting you into my house would be like letting Satan into my house."
I just found out through the grapevine that my little sister is pregnant with her first kid. It's bitter sweet news for me. I'm happy for her but sad because I know she will allow little to no contact between her child and me.
That said, none of my sisters speak to me. Ever. Because I disagree with their religious views I'm "bad association".
The direct effect on me aside, my sisters are super intelligent and far more motivated than I am. They Could do amazing things with their minds and their lives if they weren't chained down by some imaginary friend and the fucking cult that worships it. They have one life, and are wasting it on nothing.
That's why I'm angry. That's why I hate religion and fight against it every chance I get.
And where, might I ask, would they get the idea that these actions are ok if not from their religious doctrine?
I'm not angry a at the word religion. I'm angry at the ideologies in this world that promote such disgusting actions.
Further, I know first hand that those who are indoctrinated truely believe they are doing what's right. That's not to say it makes it ok but there's an obvious difference between someone being a dick for the fuck of it And someone who believes they are risking their immortal souls by associating with someone. It's manipulation through fear. They are victims of religion just as much as those outside of the church.
Of course there are many who use that fear to manipulate people for their own gain and those people I do hate.
Dawkins may be assertive in condemning religion but every time I have watched him he has been very courteous to the religious. One of his best videos is where he reads letters from the religious written to him in the vilest language possible and makes lite of it. It appears that you are saying to make arguments against ridiculous superstition but don't get angry at the person making the argument. From my observation of Richard Dawkins, that is exactly what he does.
Why does anyone of any religion get angry. Because they feel disinfranchised, I know for instance that the Christian religion pushes for forgiveness "turning the other cheek" while some athiests don't have a set Creed for that. What form of paganism do you practice?
@rabbibubba How many omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, benevolent atheists have you met?
I am angry because conservative so-called "religious" people are using their fake christianity to manipulate and control the rest of us.
Mostly of course in the political arena. I try not to get angry so much as more logical and very pedantic.
When you feel righteous, everyone else is an peon that should listen to you. To brake this horrible cycle, simply admit that you are human.
No need to break any cycle if I am in fact both much smarter AND much more well-versed on a given subject. Some people are indeed simpletons with an opinion who need to be called out and shut down.
And, who says that Atheists are "angry", the Theists do, not the Atheists that I know and I know literally Thousands, if not, Millions of them.
Theists make a point of throwing false accusations at Atheists, they make a point of insulting, deriding, debasing and threatening Atheists, as I have had done to me personally innumerable times, with absolute impunity.
Atheists just simply try to get their ideas/thoughts, etc, across to the Theists and it is the Theists who become irascible, angry and threatening, not the Atheists.
If you click on his name you get
"Rabbibubba is not active or does not exist"
I think he was a troll. Or maybe worse - a religious person!
The only source of anger would be when the religious attempt to force their fantasies on us - as they have done for 2,000 years, except then, they killed you unless you confessed to love their god. It still happens in other counties. I get angry when a little girl is forced to have genital mutilation, when legislators make and enforce laws that are based of their religious belief which they are sworn and baptized to hold above all laws of the land, when god is used to harm people and the environment, when people, who do not want to be helpful give you 'thoughts and prayers' though they never pray - though sometimes beg their fantasy saints.
And the muslims still DO kill you.
When I first came out as an atheist last December, I was angry. That is gone now. Now it's just comical to read about the devout Christians.
The question of "angry at religion" gets interpreted different ways. I've have my share of Christian proselytizers jump to the conclusion that I'm "angry at God." Nothing could be further from the truth. How can I be angry at something that doesn't exist? What I do get angry at is social injustice and hurtful oppression and coercion of people. And guess what! Religion is arguably the number social tool used to try to control people; not only people, but laws, public opinion, and unwritten social rules. Anger is a valid emotion. It is also a motivator to spur people to action against destructive forces. Yay Anger!
"...arguably the number ONE...," that is. I can't seem to get away from typos. :/
"There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion." I actually have pity for those trapped in religion. I only get angry when they try to translate their bad ideas into actions that negatively impact others. If you're going to pass legislation that requires people do or not do something, it needs to be based on verifiable, objective truths. I support mandatory vaccination, for example, but vehemently oppose bans on homosexual marriage.
I don’t think it is angry per say, to some degree, but if some atheists are angry, I reckon it is probably because atheist for so long has been dehumanized. Atheist are the least trusted and to make matters worse, we are expected to believe in an insane God, who could not have possibly be the ruler of our Universe. Religion really is an ugly thing and for so long, they’ve forced their rules on people.
Anger is an appropriate emotional response to danger. We feel angered by religion because we see the danger it presents. The trick is to channel that anger productively rather than letting it make you act a fool.
I do not believe that Richard Dawkins is an angry Atheist. He is a confident assertive individual who when provoked (usually rudely) responds in kind.
He is a biologist, he is logical, he is passionate. And he often says he is a militant atheist. He talks often about how biology is under attack by creationism.
I think people ( like us) who are not on the front lines of forcing change into the minds of people are never attacked the way he is are never shoved into the media and forced to put up with the attacks he endures.
I saw him speak once and I was amazed at how rudely religious people in the crowd ( and yes they came) asked questions.
There is a good video to watch: [ted.com]
It's the credulity that most of the time gets many of us to shake our heads in disgust.
When it comes to accurately using the gray matter one has, religionists are the zenith of duncedom since they 'come from' the emotional part of the brain exclusively.
They wouldn't know a logically based stance if it come up and bit 'em in the ass...literally.
My man, the frustration that comes from dealing with one of these people is enough to start one to drink. It's not anger at the gawd head. We don't believe he exists, so how could we be angry at him.
Einstein quote on the subject seems relevant..."Only two things are infinite, the universe and stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
As long as you can't fix stupid, (or so it seems), then we as a species are in deep shit because we'll be, and are repeating the same variant type of idiocy over, and over, and over, and over.
Is this a trick question -- Let’s see… how about a lifetime of religious persecution? Or religious persecution throughout the bulk of recorded human history? Societal ostracization? Political exclusion? Sub-minority status? Or knowing others are being jailed or murdered for their honesty…? Yes, I’d say anger’s justifiable
I AM angry at religion and the BS which its followers espouse, but not at its followers per se. Reason is simple - I wasted a large chunk of my life devoted to this folly, which is not only a huge waste of time, effort, and money, but also, more insidiously, creates the habit of irrationality and being an unquestioning sheep. It's this terrible habit of irrationality (necessary to swallow the thousands of inconsistencies in the bible and the canonical beliefs generally) which rots the brains of the theists collectively - which is in turn horrible for society - this utter inability by the general public to think critically and logically about all subjects, especially political ones.
As a New Thought Church board president, I've noticed many former Traditional Christians come to our Church after a bad experience at their former church. This doesn't explain everyone's resentment toward Traditional Christians , however. I've only recently dealt with this resentment myself and I've never been a Traditional Christian. I came to realize my resentment came from my resentment toward all liars and that's how I viewed them, at least their ministers. On the cross (in one of the Gospels, Luke I think) Jesus says "forgive them fore they know not what they do". That's the attitude I am trying to adopt. I think if we try not to judge them, many will evolve.
Well, I deconverted during my adolescence, which probably made me seem pretty angry. But, there's also the realization that you've been lied to by just about everyone around you, and that so few of them are even capable of recognizing it. It's just a tad frustrating.
I think is more frustration than anger..he present facts and gets plain stupidity as an answer...
I would like to ask, Why are many religious persons angry? You'd think, with all that goodness & mercy raining down on them, and happiness in the forever all set up they'd be singing & smiling small 24/7. But noooooooo, they are ranting & raving and calling names, shaming, damning, and generally making themselves annoying, if not actually dangerous... Wth? So, sic 'em, Mr. Dawkins!