Yes will they have the power or will they elect people who care enough and have the political will to get other leaders to proactively and effectively collaborate across the world stage..to effect the real and urgent changes to problems facing mankind..not just local votes..or pandering to lobbyists who are very much part of the problem.

@Hitchens Well, that's a relief!

You are quite correct..in many ways..the question is about the past..the present..and the outlook for the near future..if nothing else we are all realists here..I know that all life will definitively be destroyed by either our own hand I.e nuclear holocaust..climate change..a virus/resistant bacteria..asteroid collision..and you're right much of this is beyond our control...

Life consciousness and time are indeed like a transitory dream..but I would like us to effect enough change to allow my children and their children to live that dream..not the nightmare.

Thank you William.?

I hear you..Im not sure if the enlightened people of America are ready for another administration from Hell.
If Pence gets in...I will permanently lose my faith in common good and reason...it is already teetering.
I have seen that crazy look in Prince's eyes..I am sincerely convinced that he is not right in the head as they say...Trump is not in the least religious..he just panders to them..but Pence is something different..he is a true believer..he believes he is the hand of God.. put here to make things right by God.

Who knows what this fruitcake might try. Better the devil you know..than the hand of God.

He scares me..really.

@Hitchens exactly! Trump is awful and is a buffoon, but Pence is truly evil. The Democratic Party is not being progressive enough and they keep fighting moving to the left. So long as they continue fighting the shift, the republicans will win. They won’t get people motivated to vote. People are tired of voting for the lesser evil.

@Butterflywndr

So odd that Democrats are clueless on a strategy to wipe the floor with them.

So ironic that one of the few things that Republicans know how to do..is get their votes out
Taking full advantage of the outrageous gerrymandering stateside.

@RobLawrence

I would blame you for joining the space force team...just to get off the damn planet!!

Yea you nailed it..we are voracious consumers..we are insatiable..There is this stupid way of thinking..don't worry about the rain forests, the wildlife , Marine life, ice caps etc disappearing..

Because you will be dead..

Don't worry about climate change or pollution etc

Because you will be dead..

Who cares about the humans coming after us?

I'm starting to think that people may deserve what's coming down the line.

Same with Trump..they voted for him..they deserve him.

I wonder will they ever sort out the issues with Cryogenics...then maybe we could press the pause button..and take a look at the brave new world of the future?

@Hitchens It's an interesting thought

@Hitchens then we would have to live with the same idiots that got us here in the first place ☹. ... And the future would likely be created on Huxley's distopian Brave Nee World.

@Geoffrey51 Fair point!..I didn't think of it from that perspective...maybe one tour on this little blue dot should be enough anyway..?

@Hitchens don't plan on another planet or Science to solve this.we will and must!

@bubaj50

Yea but we need Governments to get their collective fingers out of their asses..and agree a common approach..A.K.A Paris Accord.. a lame duck without the U.S on board..its not much..but at least it was a start..climate deniers are just as bad as flat Earthers..at least those lunatics are only a danger to themselves. IMO.

We may not even make it through to next weekend...nobody knows...

But I only know that it's better to be alive than dead...?

@RobLawrence Even their time will come, though likely after ours.

We are not allowed to call it human race anymore.. it's human species apparently...I've been reprimanded twice already on this Post..so tread lightly ??

But since we are all buggered and dooooomed..feel free to call it what you like..I'm sure the cockroaches and rats inheriting the world will be more than happy to take over the Rat Race..?

Thanks have the most pleasant afternoon ever.

@Hitchens. Uhhhhhhh! Bloody semantics. Well, race, species, whatever it's all fucked anyway so sounds like someone with too much time on their hands and nothing important in their life to address!?

@Geoffrey51

No it ok..they are good people..it would be different if it came from Trolls..but they are fine well intentioned guys ..words carry weight..and what seems like a trivial faux pad to me..is an important distinction to another..that should be respected..unless it's done out of malice..I agree some times the message is more important than arguing over the semantics. Cheers Geoffrey. ?

@Geoffrey51 you will be part of the Problem,Not the Solution!!

@bubaj50 That is probably true. Love cliches though

And true those with the ability to adapt or with the will to survive..are always the best placed to survive..correct by any standard.

Cheers.

I was born in '71 ..I have noticed a year on year trend of the following cycle:

A surge in capitalism..followed closely by a surge in marketing..followed by a surge in consumerism..followed by a surge in manufacture..followed by a surge in pollution and waste...

All for "Stuff" that the marketing people convinced us we needed...and the cycle continues exponentially...for more crap that we don't need..we just want or covet it...

Yep..greed and a huge lack of empathy...

Hopefully the kids of today...have already woken up to that coffee...

Great optimistic answer...I have faith that the kids will turn this around...if there is time..

@Hitchens I raised my Son and Daughters to be adaptable to whatever tasks that they may encounter. Not with the attitude of Survivalists, but of people that will change the world for Humanity. They would be well able to be "survivalists" too , mind you.

@bubaj50 I have 2 girls...I agree..you need to teach them right from wrong..to know that it's up to them to change the crap they see on the news..it upsets them how things are going ..even at their age.
I try to teach them the importance of thinking for themselves..and also critical analysis..asking questions..and when your done..ask some more questions...
I would love to teach them some survivalist skills but the truth is apart from common sense tips that I picked up from books and TV..I really don't know shit from shinola..

Anyway some of those survivalist..take it to far..IMO...some of em are genuine fruitcakes..still I admire their skills..but am saddened that they really believe Armageddon is always a week away..maybe I'm wrong..who knows?

@Hitchens I have an advantage in that I grew up on a farm...and I am a sailer...I know that “ plan A” is only theoretical!

@bubaj50

Well you definately would have the jump on me..?

But there should always be a Plan B if the shit hits the fan.

Let's just hope it never comes to that..now we need little scientists etc ?

Sometimes it feels like 1 step forward..2 steps back..but yes..we are survivors at the end of the day..but I think we need to keep an eye on going in the right direction..