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The legal drinking age

When I was 18 the legal drinking age in my home state of New Jersey was 18. It has since been charged to 21. Do you think it is right that an 18 year old can serve and die for his country yet not be served a beer in that same country?

Shelton 8 Oct 18
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do you think its right that in England a man/boy can have 2 legal children and serve before he can watch porn? I think drink should have a health warning myself.

While it's ironic that in the UNITED KINGDOM, one can have sex before watching porn, it's not really that harmful. As for children, one can only get married at 16 with parental permission. Same for drinking, actually; 16 year olds are allowed to drink under the supervision of a guardian.

I put the United Kingdom in capitals because this mistake is made all too often; people, usually Americans, conflating England and the UK as a whole. It's kind of the reverse of referring to the USA as "America".

@JosephHarrison governments want us clever enough to work and vote for them but stupid enough to do nothing.

@LeighShelton Not sure how that's relevant to the discussion, but OK. Here, the education is far better and mandatory to 18, with options for practical education i.e apprenticeships.

@JosephHarrison they don't care about what we think

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I don't. I also think that it puts drinking into hiding which causes more problems.

I took a train across Canada when I was 18. Some provinces had 18 as their drinking limit, and some had 19. I hung out in the bar coach to begin with and then had to leave and go back as we went through the various provinces. The patrons and bartender got a kick out of it.

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Sometimes I think your laws are very odd to say the least. In the UK the drinking age is 18 but many bars set the limit at 21.This is voluntary, as I bought my 1st beer in a bar just before my 14th birthday, this helps ensure that the bar won't be breaking the law.
I was introduced to drinking by my dad. This may seem a bad thing but it went like this. We would go to a pub where he drank. I would be introduced to his friends. Everything was not only under control but a social order and dequorum was established. Nowadays it seems that order no longer exists. Binge drinking on our city streets is a major problem for both young males and females.
It does seem strange that the land of the free allows you to buy a gun but not play poker online (for money). To vote but not drink at 18. In some states you can have sex at 14 but others won't let you fill your own car up with gas.

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Yes.They can drink on base. They tried that in Austin in the 80's, and it was a disaster. DWI's went way up, and the bars didn't like it. The bars didn't like it because they filled up the bars and didn't spend money. It only lasted a few months. Raise the age they can go into the military if you think it is unfair.

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weird ive often wondered why usa adopted 21 as the drinking age yet in some states 14 you can marry even 18 seems ridiculous if you can work and pay taxes at 16

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I think less 18 year olds should die, and my 14 year old should not be subject to recruiters so much. I don't really think it has much to do with one another though. People seem to drink regardless so to me It just comes off like one more way to harass people who aren't criminals, like a way to get young people into the legal system early on. Sometimes that's hard to get back out of.
It's also pointless because it's not really enforced much anyway. I don't know anyone who wanted to drink that waited.

MsAl Level 8 Oct 18, 2018
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I fell within the cusp, as I was 18 and legally drinking when the law was changed to 21.

Those in that range were still able to legally drink.

Kavanaugh claimed to be in this group as well but was actually 17 when the law changed in his state.

I think if you are legally able to vote and enlist in the military you should be able to drink.

DUI should still be zero tolerance, because that is a dangerous combo when people are so inexperienced.

LOL that happened to my dad too, but in his case there was no exception.

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I don't really see that the two are connected. You could equally ask if its right that someone can get married and have children and yet not be old enough to go and fight for them.

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I think like most things American there is something else entirely that needs to be dealt with in our culture. Specifically our attitudes towards alcohol. I do not disagree with the idea of a 18 year old drinking age in theory save for the culture that glorifies mass consumption of alcohol. As for the service part? Right now at least serving is a choice and I think any young person who wants to serve probably has far more important things on their mind then getting drunk. Or even drinking. Like college after service or service with a goal involving their long term future after their service. Even those who are looking to be career military likely do not see being able to drink at 18 as a priority. Then there are those who join due to our cultures placing them in a place were military or prison are there only options. This should not be. We can do better on many sides of that issue. If we were operating from a place of reason the driving age would be something like 24 in most non rural areas. This is when most people are mature enough to make rational decisions and accident rates plummet. The question is what is more important being fair or rational? There are plenty of other ways to deal with stress or relax after a hard day etc. Maybe we should give them an option, Alcohol at 18 and driving at 21? Get their binge on before they drive and potentially kill someone driving drunk?

Quarm Level 6 Jan 23, 2019
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Drinking age of 21, ridiculous gun laws, train wreck health care, no metric system, the death penalty, non-compulsory seatbelts and motorcycle helmets, legal child marriage - there's a huge list of weird shit that literally no other developed nation does.

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Note one does not need to reach the age of majority to enter the military, nor has it ever been so. Being served beer is not a good example inasmuch that when I was in the military (1962 and later), the solders could drink beer (3.2 % alcohol) at the PX's, BX's on military reservations/posts/forts.

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It has to do with the legal age of majority. In my opinion, if the age of majority is set at 18 then all the perks and elements of the age of majority should start at eighteen. However, that is not the case now. While an 18 year-old is deemed to have reached age of majority, he/she still cannot buy a handgun or drink in some locations. The situation strikes me as illogical inasmuch as, if they cannot handle certain adult rights at 18 years of age, then the age of majority should be raised to the age (21?) where it is deemed they can.

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Never quite sure why the two are always equated...guessing you should also be able to screw a prostitute in states where it's illegal or do a sheep, or do drugs or have sex with an under age minor. It's a nice sound bite. Same for being a cop who risks their lives daily? In Arizona when I moved here you could wear a gun on your hip but couldn't drink past one in the morning. If you're allowed to carry a gun shouldn't you be able to have bars open all night? If you pay thousands of dollars tuition to a college shouldn't you be able to carry a gun on campus? If you play football and get your college for free shouldn't you get paid too? At seven years old you can help your farmer father grow crops for the country so shouldn't you be able to drive the crops to market? Help me understand the entitlement argument please.

lerlo Level 8 Oct 19, 2018

@Shelton my point: should laws be changed to accomodate soldiers? Extreme examples were necessary to make my point. What's the difference between saying I'm 18 and potentially giving up my life so I should be able to drink beer or, so I should be able to have sex with my 14 year old girlfriend?
Federal and state laws don't coincide on all kinds of different issues. Some 7 year olds are more responsible than some 18 year olds. Some 18 year olds aren't responsible enough to be in the military but the laws try and set reasonable limits and have differing objectives.

@Shelton so you wanted only people to agree with you--I get it. You wanted opinions but only those that agree with you...you fit perfectly in this group. It's only the laws you don't like that you want changed...

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