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An appropriate map

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I see a bunch of people doing a lot of talking, but I see no proof that what they are saying is anything more than just talk.

I’m sure the heart of Caracas is as lively as the heart of any other city. But what is it like once you move away from the center of business and commerce in to the poorer areas of the country? That will tell you what is really going on, and from the footage coming out of the more rural and neglected parts of the country, the news isn’t good. Involuntary human trafficking..... desperate poverty..... no medical assistance for the sick.... no government services to keep up infrastructure.

Show me rural areas where the populace exists in relative comfort and I’ll be convinced. Don’t stand in the lobby of some posh hotel and feed me a line on You Tube.

It's almost as if you're describing the U.S. right now: "desperate poverty..... no medical assistance for the sick.... no government services to keep up infrastructure"

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@Piratefish

Yep.

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Perhaps footage of the peaceful situation would be more compelling than people talking about it.

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I have to wonder why so many are quick to point to Venezuela as proof that socialism, in any form, is not viable. Yet these same people seem unable to also consider the following facts in their illogical analysis:

  1. Chavez, and now Maduro, are both de facto despots, more or less
  2. The sanctions against Venezuela that would be very difficult for any nation to overcome
  3. The many European examples of socialist democracies that are doing just fine, in fact some are arguably doing even better than the U.S. in many key areas, and
  4. The massive and growing poverty and wealth/income inequality in our own, precious capitalist economy

They’ve always pointed out the worst of anything that threatens them.
I’m not ever going to say that Maduro is a great or even a good leader because I don’t live there.

But what I do know is that he’s committed the same sins that Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad and even Putin has threatened to do.
And that’s to quit the USD and sell their oil for other currencies.

And guys like guido that are here pushing for us to invade are from the ruling class that was more than happy to actually let the people of Venezuela be little more than their slaves and to walk over their future on their way to their estates.

The same was done by Cubans that came here after Castro took over. They owned the casinos and resorts that us and other westerners would spend our money and time at. They owned the sugarcane plantations and cigar factories but Castro told them that they were no longer better than everyone else.

So here we are Venezuela has oil and other resources and these people want their power back and we’re once again the actual hammer and sickle to the hopes and dreams of any developing country that doesn’t give us the lions share.

@48thRonin You have hit the nail on the head. Every conflict/war we have been involved in since Vietnam has been to enforce the petrodollar or the central banking system. Period. And our government have done horrible things to gain public support for this agenda.

@Piratefish Yes they have but this time the competency of this current administration showed when the replacement showed up before the coupe.

And honestly if we were to go by the standards that they’re following we should all go stand in front of the White House and declare ourselves as the actual president of the United States.

And in the meantime it literally took an act of Congress to get us out of Saudi Arabia’s punishment of the Shiites in Yemen that have become Saudi Arabia’s Palestinians. The world needs to start calling out this kind of behavior for what it is “ imperialism “

@48thRonin I could not agree more. I do not find it all surprising that more than one international poll has identified the U.S. as the single greatest threat to world peace.

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@Piratefish indeed

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Sound's out.... could you summarize?

Check your end I just watched it on two different devices and it’s working.

@MissKathleen
Thanks kiddo. I kind of got that from the subtitles. I wonder who the carvan(s) people are then.....

@MissKathleen
The supposedly oppressed people of Venezuela who were arriving at the Mexican/American border.

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