No wall. Disruptive to migrating wildlife. The border patrol does not want it. The financing is stratospheric. Walls are temporary. The current President is impulsive. DACA remains if we have to hide those kids like run away slaves, or Jews, or ex Russian spies.

Dolofivethree, I majored in poli sci. Like a gajillion years ago. The most important event in my life is Watergate. People from both parties did what was right for the country, politics be damned.

I hate that compromise and finding a way forward has become a bad thing.

Are people who are on the opposite extremes really capable of compromising? Wouldn't your nature be to slide further to your side? It's like that story about the scorpion and the frog. It's in your nature.

What's DACA?

Can't compromise on everything.

Freedom from religion: non-negotiable.
Protecting the environment: non-negotiable.
Freedom of speech, of the press, of assembly, to dissent: non-negotiable.

I have seen too often and poignantly how people get shitty ideas that they clamor to defend: like teaching creationism in schools and not vaccinating your kids. Just, no.

Weight of subscribers does not always lend legitimacy: some things are just wrong. Sometimes you have to say "no way, never, nada".

I don't the stupid fucking wall either-he is holding DACA hostage.

I'll give him the wall if we get the DACA kids, but(BUT!) Mexico has to pay for the wall, Lol

There was a time when compromise was the goal, or at least the expectation. When we voted our best & brightest into office to represent us in Washington, the State Capital or City Hall … we knew they’d argue on our behalf. But also knew we’d end up with compromise, a situation in which everyone is considered ‘unhappy,’ though often the best result.

I watched former President Jimmy Carter recently describe the problems of today, basically stemming from the ‘Citizens United’ decision, allowing the wealthy to further tip our laws in their favor … and it’s only gotten worse.. Now, we’ve the party of big money in total charge - with no need or desire to just compromise - they want it all!

For me, the question remains: how bad does it have to get before our (US) citizens wise up..? I didn’t think we’d recover from the 2nd term of Reagan, or Bush Jr… And after 8 years of exemplary competence.. ‘This.’ The damage is deep, perhaps too deep. Our society works hardest for the wrong things, chasing the newest gadget or trend instead of appreciating all we have, and looking to pass on as much as we can to those who follow…

It’s ironic that a party and it’s leader proclaiming to make america great again are the very thing having ruined our opportunities to do just that…

As for unlimited illegal immigration, rewarding it simply encourages more. The Republican’s got ‘this one’ right (and it got them the White House) … and the Democrat’s shoot themselves in the head everytime they make it a priority.. Pelosi & Schumer need replaced... Sometimes, it’s Dumb, & Dumber ~

Politics and religion are all the same corrupt shit as far as im concerned.

Lenin

The problem with compromise in this case is that we have a president who is a pathological liar and a con-artist. He has made a lot of money by not following through on his end of deals he's agreed to, and continues to do so now.

I believe in socialism but not scientific socialism. I am very tired of socialism being used as a bad word when we use socialist policies in this country daily and have for hundreds of years.

I'm not being pedantic, but I'm not sure what left of Marx and Lenin means. Could you explain that? My own thinking is much influenced by my early life studies of Marxism and other philosophies in socialism and related, and that continues to today. Lenin is not an influence on me. I'm a democratic socialist, if I have to choose a political philosophy position.

I agree. His stupid wall is just a waste of money but the DACA kids matter.

As to political leanings, I hold that politics is not a 1-dimensional problem. It may even be naive to characterize it as 2. Still 2 dimensions give more insight into a persons position. I'm "left libertarian". Politely it is described as Socialist-Libertarian, and no, don't let the righties tell you it is a contradiction. More correctly it is described as Communist-Anarchist, which is what I call myself in my own mind but not in polite company.

The site below characterizes political positions in 2D. I got 8.75, 7.69...

[politicalcompass.org]