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Atheism and psychedelics

Many people who use psychedelics say that it caused them to believe in god, or strengthened their belief. If you are someone who uses psychedelics, do you think it strengthened your lack of belief? Did/does it help you in any way? Spiritual experiences? Spiritual, in a non-religious way... More like a feeling of connectedness, centeredness, and renewed appreciate for the cosmos and all within it?

Just a random thought. Only answer if you don't disagree with psychedelic use, please.

RaeBxtchens 5 Mar 16
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I already was reluctant to discount the possibility of a higher being existing. Psychedelics just made me feel more connected to the universe and made me not just more accepting of my opinions but others’ beliefs as well

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Nope I think I might of made some connection then I'm pretty sure I just shorted out my brain a little.

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For me it became many different experiences but it did ignite a curiosity about our interconnectedness as humans...It was colors that sparked an interest such as you experienced. It was of great influence and opportunity to examine more than challenge a god. . Just curious what was out there and if it was a Who

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Sam Harris has a video that talks about it. His experience with extasy

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None of my 3 'acid trips' involved a god of any kind just bright colours and things not behaving predicatably - I just remember laughing a lot. I don't think any of it meant anyhtign just rearranging stuff in my brain.

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I've used psychodelics in the past (mostly blotter), had a great time each time. The thought of a diety never crossed my mind, I was too busy laughing and watching tracers and stuff.

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I have always been too cheap to spend money on drugs but I have hit some blissful runner's high (endocannabinoids) and, aside from painlessly floating just above the pavement I was running on, I never encountered god.

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Not sure about psychedelics but this does bring to mind a study that explored near death experience. Some found god, others lost god.

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After over 300 trips from 1966 to 1969, I never saw god or any other mystic being! I did see the wonder of the sun, the moon, the ocean, and others to which all that that entails Have not drop since 1969! As an Army Brat living in many different places, religion or god(s) never entered my mind because of those experiences!

Thank you so much for sharing. I'm nowhere near your experience level, but have done quite a bit. Never had a religious experience (in my life, lol). But I do feel love, connected, happy, and compassionate. Renewed passion, as well.

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Long time ago my experiences with psycadelics was always good, never overwhelming. Mushrooms are best but a few times people got something that made them ill. I always had a contentment hangover after eating mushrooms.

I may have been taken psycadelics a couple of dozen times, forty years ago.

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Psychedelics affect the mind. The concept of a diety only exists in the mind. That's the connection.

I think we're all aware of that, but thanks for sharing, Evan.

Also, that's a very attractive picture of you.

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I’ve eaten a lot of acid, I’d say probably between 1 and 2 sheets. I abruptly stopped taking it when I was 18 or 19 because I didn’t need it anymore. I used it to better “see reality”, and I just no longer need it. With that said, I still wouldn’t mind tripping now, over 20 years later. Maybe the next time I’m in Cali we can trip. At least some of us 😉

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I think most persons who go that road do so wanting to experience a feeling of release and to connect with something other than the Sunday Service. Native Indians had a beautiful way of life and understanding thier existence which for the most part was totally in balance and harmony with Mother Earth, and Nature. Even the Ancients Greeks and had a more plausible explaination of life than what we are told 'to believe'. They were also advanced in Mathematics and other sciences which are still in existence today. What drugs did they take? I'm sure they had some and that the natural ones are still available because they are natural.

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Can't say I've ever had any kind of "spiritual" experience while using psychedelics.
Everyone is different, but I can't imagine anyone having any experience that would make them become more or less anything, simply from taking acid (or anything else).
It might amplify whatever issues one may already be (or have been) having, but I kind of doubt it would create an issue if one didn't already exist.

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I saw a frog on a motorcycle once while on acid. Maybe that was god. It was a dirt bike.

After over 300 trips from 1966 to 1969, I never saw god or any other mystic being! I did see the wonder of the sun, the moon, the ocean, and others to which all that that entails Have not drop since 1969! As an Army Brat living in many different places, religion or god(s) never entered my mind because of those experiences!

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Did a LOT in 70's and 80's and a little in the 90's. It was like mind enema for me, cleaned everything out for a few hours. It wasn't spiritual for me, more of a cleansing. Hours of laughing.

Mind enema; funny!

That is a great way to describe it. Like a purging of negativity and such. Thank you.

@RaeBxtchens That's it. 🙂

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It was always the interconnectedness of things which struck me under that type of influence. I can't say I was ever drawn to religion by an experience, more frustrated at the lack of awareness in those connections.

My experience is somewhat similar, and I appreciate you sharing.

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I had a few profoud moments of self awareness and betterment when I was younger with a few different exposures to peyote etc. One particular incident while on my motorcycle trip through central / south america in my 20's in particular. Shared a medicine bag with a local and watched the Milky Way loom all night. It gave me a unique observation of the depth and beauty of the universe.

That is beautiful. Thank you for sharing. <3

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I think psychedelics highlight things that are already in the user's subconscious rather than generating new experiences and beliefs. I've never believed in gods and/or the supernatural and for that reason I never once hallucinated or felt anything along those lines in the 20 years I used hallucinogens.

Jnei Level 8 Mar 16, 2018

Makes sense. I grew up in a very religious family, but it never quite "stuck" with me. I've never had a religious experience, but I do experience something that is best described as spiritual, but not in a religious sense (as stated in the post). It's more a sense of oneness, of "connectedness," and immense feelings of love and empathy.

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Psychedelics could have a purpose in study of the vast universe, and possibly in relaxation also. "Spiritual" is a term I no longer like because it can mean almost anything that you want it to mean.

Good point. I understand, but lack the vocabulary to describe it. For me, spiritual means overwhelming feelings of love, oneness, and empathy.

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When I used psyychadelics back in college there was absolutely no connection to god-I was an atheist already.

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Having never had any religious indoctrination in my upbringing, I don’t tend to find it in drugs. There is something spiritually connective about one-on-one lsd, mushroom, or mdma experiences, as well as small groups. At a minimum, the opportunity for deepening connection with each other is recognizable.

Thanks for sharing. Though I grew up in a religious family, I have never really been religious. I do not experience anything religious... but that connection to everyone and everything is there.

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I'm pro experimentation in general, but alas it will have to wait until retirement. MDMA is on my bucket list.

[samharris.org]

MDMA is on mine, as well. Thanks for sharing.

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I had my LSD years, spiked with mushrooms and animal tranquilzers. Nothing changed my mind about the evils of religion and the non-existence of any god. I did, however, have several episodes with hamsters ( little brown fuzzy rodents) everywhere, especially in my bags and pockets.. And once i woke up in the middle of the night, totally convinced that I had the answer to the mysteries of life. I wrote it down, went back to sleep and found complete gibberish on my writing pad. Oh well, so much for god-like experiences.

LOL! Thanks for sharing.

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