In the past , women had little choice , in getting with the man she wanted . Yes she could flirt , if given the opportunity , but , it wasn't lady like to approach a man . Basically , she was left with only the accept or reject portion of a relationship , and even today , a man who is rejected , may feel he was shamed and depending to a large extent on his culture , may feel he has the right to punish or even kill a woman for rejecting him . In some cultures , the parents still arrange marriages , and the couple may not even meet the intended until just before the wedding . Hopefully , the parents will have what is best for the intendeds in mind , but unfortunately , it may have more to do with finances , or how the parents will profit , rather than if the intendeds are compatible . Today , in this country , more women are able to make their own choices , and can readily approach a man she may have an interest in . That doesn't mean she's going to get what she truly wants in a relationship . Men frequently turn down a woman , because he feels she's too aggressive , or he may think she's only interested only in a sexual encounter , and sometimes that is exactly what she wants .

No don't act like anything be yourself if acting is what you do best then by all means but it feels better to go with what feels natural to you.

Of course it's fine for a woman to ask the question, but equally, she shouldn't have to. What's concerning is the increasing reservations that men seem to have about asking, for fear of being seen as predatory. Yes, men need to stop treating women as property. The objectification has to end. The Islamic world is a long way off achieving this, but the Western one is currently trying too hard, taking things too far, demonising and even criminalising the traditional human mating ritual.

Who makes the first move is neither important nor any real cause for concern. The worst case scenario is that the other person is not interested in a romantic relationship with you so maybe you become friends or you walk away or you nurse a bruised ego.

Years ago I chatted with a woman online and on the sixth or seventh chat she suggested that we could draw up a prenuptial agreement. At best I found her suggestion to be hilarious and at worst I considered her to be someone who is a con artist. She reminded me of another woman with whom I chatted for three consecutive days and on the third day she typed in the chat window: "I've got very expensive tastes," I replied: "I'm delighted to learn about your very expensive tastes, I hope you can afford them".

So, if there someone that you like online or elsewhere then simply pluck up the courage, break the ice, ask them out for a date in some public place where it is not too noisy so that you can get to know each other and decide if you want to pursue a relationship with that person, There is no need to turn it into a game.

Which culture do you take as your model?

It is called chivalry, from the code of behaviour for the knights of old. I avidly subscribe to it, whilst also allowing a woman to "go Dutch" if she so desires. Why shouldn't men open doors and allow women through first? However, women should play their part and be gracious about it. Everyone ends up happy.

Ew gender roles

<That is up to the individual. Less I remind you that you will be treated as you are precieved!

Everyone should act how they wish to act with no regard to gender roles. That's why I'm a feminist.

I deliberately have not read any of the comments here. Because, ultimately, I really don't give a toss what other people think. Life is a constant state of negotiation; relationships are no different. You calibrate your experience with another person based on how the two of you interact. I'm happy to take lead; I'm happy to be taken. In bed, I'm just as happy as Big Spoon as I am as Little Spoon. I don't care. As long as she and I work out something we're both happy with, then joy to the world. And that's it, really. Here endeth my sermon.

Promoting feminism is a propoganda of media to get attention heigher TRP.
Feminism is not to roam naked arround,but feminism is the feminism of Marrie Curie,Klara Zetkin,Kalpana Chawla etc.
Men have no HAZARD from true feminism,but provided feminism to be feminism.

I believe that human should be human.
So much in this world can change someone, shape that someone, make it different from the neighbourg or the next guy. I believe that what is happening is that society whants us to be different. They want us to be mold in a very diffinitive way. Mans have to be square and women must be circle (or trianle, or rectangle. Use the shape you prefer here).
But the more we evolve and the more we see that his is not it. Some mans are women trying to act like man because of some stupid book writen 1600+ years ago. And some women want to be man, but they have to hide it.
And we believe that we have to act like this because of this society we are in.
We HAVE to be productive, we HAVE to have a good job, we HAVE to have the house, the car, the boat, the cat been chased by the dog, the kids, the canoe, we HAVE to get it together. And somewhere along the lines, we lost what it was to be human. And man are insecure beause they no longer know what it is to be... and women feel like they HAVE to be strong otherwise they won't make it, they won't be, the kids won't be feed, the family won't become because her man or her women is down on her knees, wondering: "Where the heck am I? What the heck am I?" Where the hell did we go wrong?
Society has messed us up. We no loger know who we are. We are being brainwashed and bombarded by subliminal signals everywhere and we wonder what is happening. "Obey!" "Consume!" "Listen!" "Work!" "Pray!" "Good boy! Here is your pay"
Humans are stong. We don't have to pretend. But our foudations are now so week that we have problems getting out of bed. We need to rediscover what it is to be human. From there, we will all blossom.

I wish a woman would make a move on me, I am tired of games

My guys say get it done and that's all my guys care about, being, as they are, basically one dimensional, metaphorically.

Personally i think it will all come out in the wash. It's individual and whatever works with who you are spending time with. Some women i know would be horrified by anything but joint decisions on everything pretty much (rightly so imo). Other females i know actively want mild dominance and a man to be a man / primate lol.

I am a Romantic, at heart and until I die, I write poems, songs... I treat the woman as a lady... I am very secure of never ending with a broken heart. But that is just me... because is how I choose to be. Every predator at some point will be a prey. Is the mating game. The trap is set... the hunter/hunted waits. But everything should be about you... Do you enjoy the courtship? Because if you dont... there is no fun and a man should understand that.

I think depending on what the parties like to do for one another
If you are ahppy with that i don't see there is a problem.

I think the equality of sexes is more about respecting the autonomy of women. Some men were never taught how to do that, and think it’s a juggling act. Men just have to get used to not all women being receptive (which is kinda the point, right?). If a woman wants to make it easier, don’t drop hints, send a bat signal.

Which women? Which men?
Pamela Anderson? Ruth Bader Ginsberg? Mother Teresa?
The Pope? Vin Deisel? RuPaul? Tom Cruise?
Generic labeling does not work for me or anyone else!

I've never been an alpha male so for me it would be best if it changed.

The responses are all over the place here, and it is interesting. And as with any response, your experiences in life, age and many other factors guide your response. That said, from my vantage point, old school courting of becoming extinct. Although not extinct yet what of it is still alive has become muddled in confusion when it comes to roles and expectations.

Today I see men not being men and women not being women (of the old). Men have crossed the line with lack of respect for women. And women have lost respect for themselves. I have never been one to say a woman should subject herself to a man's stupidity or cruelty. And men should respect themselves enough to know "before" they cross that line. It's all about "me" today. Giving of oneself is a dying attribute. To pursue a woman with dignity and honor was enjoyable. To be pursued by a honorable man was worth her time was charming. Both understood their self worth. And understood you get me only if you are worth it. Once you get me...we live as one in peace and love.

When It Comes Too Romance I Think Men Still Court Women With Chivalry.

No one has mentioned Selective Service. As for dating, I'm open to being approached.

No now that #Metoo! has come out of the closet, there will be more woman pursuing men. And thats if men feel comfortable with it. Feeling comfortable in your own skin as people not opposite sexes. Everything is going to change from here on end. Hopefully people are not going to get weirded out about it.... Equality has been formed pretty much back in the 60's, for race, religion and sex. I do believe it will carry on into the so called "New Age" thats coming about.

It is all circumstantial. I do not suffer fools gladly, as the saying goes, and I expect to be strong when life demands it. My partner should do the same.