Noo, a Christian Youth Leader slapped a women on her butt, never.

Of course he is!

Such fine "leaders" are the gift that keeps on giving. They are the antithesis of Jesus so it's of little surprise to me that they act in opposing ways. Jesus was tender to women, as art has always shown (especially with Mary Magdalene), and they bestowed love upon Him. That means they must be demeaning and base. Spanking is an act bestowed upon the wicked so the act exposes the attitude. u$A really needs to address their attitude, not their belief, and their conduct will follow. While I don't like the idea of promoting religious ideas (I've been a militant atheist for 20 years) Jesus is the embodiment of God's love, according to CHRISTianity, and therefore a different being from the God of Moses. God's understanding that such a need would be necessary is why David prophesied Jesus. This is why Jesus needed to be of David's lineage and that connection lay within Mother Mary. Everyone is the lineage of God so that wasn't enough. David was the needed DNA. I use such arguments to try swaying them back to Jesus, who is far more liberal inducing, and hope it works. If it does then it happens at 3 am, or while trying to fall asleep, and the brain has digested this argument. I'll not know about the ah-ha moment but society's change of focus would be an indication that's having an effect.

This was a year ago. We had several discussions on it then.