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Fake news and Reality

I'm a newbie and thought I'd do my first post! (Probably some vain attempt of community acceptance!) smile009.gif

Do people find that they have become so disheartened and untrusting of even the most tame of news headline, that they even fact check headlines that support their own belief bias?

By GilesD
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I trust MSNBC and CNN above all else.

sassygirl3869 Level 8 Apr 16, 2018

Fuck Fox News(Faux)!

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Experience teaches us which news sources tend to be reliable and which do not. Before I would believe it, I would fact-check everyword that comes from Fox "News."

wordywalt Level 7 Apr 16, 2018
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When Reagan/Bush ended the "Fairness Doctrine", it let news covereage drift out ot extremist viewpoints, and without rebuttle, new sources put less effort into fact checking (Fox doesnt' do it at all), and so our news sources have becoem mroe liek super market tabloids.

About the only sources left for good factural reporting is ht eBBC or NPR, but they are slipping too.

snytiger6 Level 7 Apr 16, 2018

YES and no... I suspect and also believe the reality of DEEP STATE B.S. goes back a lot further.

@LetzGetReal Well, Eisenhower did warn us about the "Military Industrial Complex". I think that because politicans are beholden to campaign contributors, corporate or otherwise, it kind of undernines the idea of a representative government, as the only persons represented are large political campaign contributors. Their interests and efforts to maintain their power, may act like a "deep state".

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I tend to believe news sources that report events in a strictly factual manner without a bias for either "side." I always check to see where any social media "news" post originated. If it's a well-known publication (e.g., WSJ, USA Today, NYT, NPR, BBC), I will read it. I discount articles posted by obviously slanted publications (e.g., Vanity Fair) even if I tend to agree with their opinions. I ignore anything from a site I don't recognize because I doubt that it will be unbiased and factual. Journalism, she ain't what she used to be. smile003.gif

msum865048 Level 3 Apr 16, 2018

Screw USA Today, they bend toward Republicans!

Factual... HMM. NRP is deteriorating as we speak. The LACK OF NET NEUTRALITY, same affect AND, EFFECT. It is hard to face aka Cognitive Dissonance, YET-- in my view, WE THE (once, maybe?), PEOPLE are being basted in P R O P A G A N D A.

@AMNOTGOD ALL THE MAGS bend so does radio and TV. They bend to the left as well--> to make it LOOK like they are unbiased. IT IS ABOUT SELLING ADVERTS across the boards. They are watching the BUYING TRENDS...

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I do it more often than I used to, and we tend to be an accepting bunch. Welcome!

Rudy1962 Level 8 Apr 16, 2018

Same here.

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I do a lot of fact checking, and tend to lean toward print, MSNBC, CNN, NPR. On the other hand, I think it is a good thing we are all being challenged to investigate for truth more. Frustrating as it is, for me, I feel I am a better citizen.

CaliJo Level 2 Apr 16, 2018

You lean toward print... And then you quote TV and radio? Confusing... YES, I agree we are being challenged, and I think it is WRONG. Propaganda and false flags are BS, plain and simple.

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I do not find it to be fictional however it is glorified beyond the original account. For instant, the ICBM alarm was sounded in Hawaii a few months back the news kept making like Trump sounded the alarm. In reality on page 4 in tinny print, a worker at the destination site set the alarm off by accident.

azzow2 Level 7 Apr 16, 2018

Fuck Trump!

When I heard the news, no one even mentioned Trump. I did not feel that is what they presented, however, your news may be different. I watch David Muir which I think is ABC. I feel they are very good at presenting just the news. However, I wish they would go into more details on some of the stories. They may read one line and and I am thinking, "well why and what happened?"

@terrygerry1 I watched Diane Sawyer for years what a perfect woman and a excellent news caster.

@AMNOTGOD GEEZE PEEZE who is not going to like that one in THIS particular discussion. Take a number. BUT out of context as he is definitely NOT MY TYPE. LOL.

I remember that incident. And I WONDER what was REALLY going on. Call me a CONSPIRACY REALIST, I take it as a compliment for what I have witnessed in my life.

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Welcome to the asylum. Enjoy your stay.
I check most news stories for their credibility, regardless of their source.

KKGator Level 8 Apr 16, 2018

Here lies the specific INSANITY...

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YES, and I don't do it OFTEN ENOUGH. I believe it is called intelligence, BTW, as well. With all the propaganda out there on M$M, when one WANTS to be informed, fact checking with more than one alternative source is a must in my world. Thanks for being "vain", aka INVOLVED~ And welcome, I am a bit of a newbie on here, too. Be bold, why notsmile009.gif ?!

LetzGetReal Level 6 Apr 19, 2018
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Question everything.

LeighShelton Level 8 Apr 17, 2018
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You technically can't fact check. First you must prove your sources used are the facts. I guarantee everything you look up has multiple perspectives given and some will contradict...How do you know which is correct?

NotConvinced Level 6 Apr 16, 2018

With the help of the Internet, one can go back to the quoted source and not only fact check it but read all the bits that perhaps aren’t quoted in some newspapers/media.

If the story say “new research show ice sheets are growing not shrinking” they will at some point quite the source and you can establish if the Research appears in a credible scientific journal (not the joke internet ones) and then read the paper in full.

If the newspaper quoted a Police spokesman saying something then you can normally go to that Police forces media website and read what their actual press release states.

Of course, as the reader, one needs to spot the use of quote marks and notice when they aren’t there. I read one report recently which said something like “the neighbour, who didn’t want to be identified, said that “the man had definitely been stabbed, according to what my wife heard from other neighbour” ffs!

POSH, with re to not being able to fact check, that is...

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Sadly, I rather doubt it, in this day and age of instant gratification. Welcome to the community by the way.

SpikeTalon Level 7 Apr 16, 2018
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To me most of the best news reporting comes from the newpapers. The big problem is what you don't get told. I wouldn't call this a Vain attempt. A lot better than I do.

kenriley Level 7 Apr 16, 2018

Washington Post is pretty good I find. BBC has rally gone down hill.

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Yes. This is the world we now live in.

WileEQuixote Level 6 Apr 16, 2018
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Trump's best route, is to resign immediately if not go to prison for a long, long time, he may be the first president to ever get a life sentence! It's illegal to launder Russian money, or any money!

AMNOTGOD Level 7 Apr 16, 2018
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Sometimes

Simon1 Level 7 Apr 16, 2018
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I am not disheartened at the news of reputable papers or cable outlets. If they get something wrong they will correct it. It is a matter of paying attention.

Sticks48 Level 7 Apr 16, 2018

I can't believe what I am reading...

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I do a lot of fact checking both right and left.
These boobs are defiantly lop-sided.
You can tell from the white house twitter.

Mortal Level 6 Apr 16, 2018

It is HIDEOUS... That "PRES" needs to get off his toilet at 3 AM and find something else to do with this TINY hands! YUCK.

@LetzGetReal LOL

@Mortal YEP... ahahahahaha..

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There are several good sources of news that are now and always have been 99% reliable. But everyone has become their own publisher with "social media" and share the crap they pick up from others that freakin' made it up. This allows people to filter, invent and promote their own twisted angles with no repercussions. And for those other entities with far more evil intent to cheaply and quickly dominate the social media with intentionally-misleading garbage. It's up to us to fact-check and challenge the lazy fake-news spreaders. Here's a helpful guide. Not perfect, but helpful.

mtnhome Level 5 Apr 19, 2018

Surprised Fox News was placed so high!
I’m from the UK and the BBC has been in free fall imho.

On a serious note; love the graphic but this is a typical example of “opinion presented as credible fact” because the graphic cites no source on which the positioning of the media outlets is determined!

I like the graphic and agree with it but all I’m doing is applying “conformational bias”.

@GilesD The graphic is a couple years old and since then Fox "News" has plummeted (my opinion) due to partnering with Trump. I've used this for my own use for quickly checking on fringe sources which all take extreme positions and spew garbage.

I don't agree at all. The 'good sources" IE, NY Times, Wash. Post, MSNBS, CNN, have all gone someplace in a hand basket in my view. I don't live in the past... IF I say more, it won't do any good here, as well. So am done.

@LetzGetReal did Elvis just leave the room?

@GilesD: Am CERTAIN OF IT... Try this one on... don't worry one can take it in segments and/or there is an INTERMISSION... An oldie yet BEASTIE:

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I think it's also the framing of the facts that makes a difference. The same known facts could be reported two different ways, eg.

"Burglar armed with a screwdriver is killed by elderly homeowner protecting his dementia suffering wife"

and....

"Knife welding ex forces 72 year old chases down burglar who dies from the stab wounds in the street".

GilesD Level 5 Apr 16, 2018

In my view, a cliche'... Old joke, whatever. We are SO FAR from this, now. The news is MANIPULATED.

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Why are you in need of community acceptance?

Self deprecation is my best quality. Or is it self defication. Oh ffs, now I’m shiting myself! Nurse Nurse! smile009.gif

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@GilesD You be Fine We Are the Craziest and You Are Home. Welcome Welcome!!!

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