i tried it was too much

i started off well but it got hard

but ur deep so it represents what , ur `self is void in ur own mind?

Yes, it doesn't matter. It is still feels good to play the role of someone who is naive and thinks it matters to someone or something... It doesn't matter either way. You choose

I wish you well. But, I’m selfish: I have enjoyed/appreciated/thought about/& more of what you have been kind enough to share (and am obviously not alone in this). I hope to see more. Take heart.

It's like you reached into my brain and took the jumbled up shit I can't express and translated it so others could understand. I don't think I'm depressed; I think it just is.

I would like to add to the very wise responses to your post. We have power that most of the time we do not recognize. That is power over ourselves. Sometimes it take huge strength and determination to exercise that power...but...that is also the power to choose. Falling into the abyss has its comfortable component, so choice is essential. Choosing to rise and following through takes huge strength. I give you my compassion and at the same time, I tell you that we can be soldiers and fight the abyss. But the things we allow to maintain that abyss can be very sneaky and hidden. So making that choice has to be with great determination. Camus wrote about it. He called it "despair" which lies in wait for us all. This defines the battlefield of life. But life can be full of sun and beauty. So I send you a magic ladder and hope you will make the climb.

Think you answered your own question if there was one, being in meaningless means you know where you are right where you need to be. There is nothing beyond the void so you gaze from the perfect vantage point. Hard to explain that's why we feel, till we had our fill

Thank you for being vulnerable

My existential crisis consists of knowing that humanity's problems are all solvable, but will never be solved because people have "faith" and reject evidence.

If life is meaningless in the sense it doesn't come from a god-mommy, you are free to define your own meaning, on your terms.

Enjoy.

I just hope you are taking care of yourself, and "a complete waste of time" I thought that was a Monty Python DVD ROM game. As for myself I guess I'm too shallow to worry about the meaning of my existence.

"If you stare into the abyss long enough the abyss stares into you." Friedrich Nietzsche. Shakespeare's Hamlet: "To be or not to be that is the question" Camus: "There is only one serious philosophical question, whether or not to commit suicide."

It seems to me that all of the above reflect states of mind, perceptions of who we think we are or what we think about. However, none of the above statements are existential dilemmas. It is reckoned that the average person has more than 6 thousand thoughts a day. Thoughts about the nature of oneself or the world are by their very nature confined by language to be about the person, state of affairs or object of thought and can never be or contain that which they so describe. Language is a useful tool but we often forget that it is a tool.

I think that most of our perceptions are coloured by our thoughts and we often walk into a situation with a script already prepared and seldom experience the situation as it happening.

I like your posts Willow, however, living to make me feel something isnt going to get either of us anywhere. See you later.

Good days, bad days. This is one of the bad ones. However, you know they'll get better. You've been around too long not to know.

read Camus about "absurd man"

Look at Malevich's art, especially his famous square.

Yes, my psychology teacher told me at 17 years old that depressed people have a more realistic take on life. He also told us we didn’t have to attend classes and wondered why I was playing cards in the canteen for so many of them.
He went on to be principal and give my bro crap when he applied to do studies there, (because we had the same last name back then),, even though my brother was the opposite of me at the time, and even then was the most hard working kind guy you’ll ever meet.
Back then I thought if something was hard it wasn’t worth doing.
But I’m just trying to distract you lols.
The times I’ve felt most hopeless are the times I’ve achieved my current goals and don’t know what I want to do next. Sure life is finite, but I bet if you bear with a few months you’ll find a want, a goal, a purpose to fight for. I hope so. In the mean time here’s a song my brother said helped him through a tough time, seeing as a lot of this reminded me of him:

Shit happens, sometimes it's good shit, sometimes it's bad shit. We are all up Shit's Creek.

I feel your desire to peer into the void. I am not an eternal optimist, good things could happen, but they may not. I am also exhausted and it is a daily struggle to find the energy to go on when there is so much chaos in the world.

You are right, “there’s no reason to be optimistic”.
But equally no reason to be pessimistic. All affect is chosen.

Best regards...

All have their demons to deal with.