Yes there is.
I'll give you a personal example from my life I was homeless during the great recession and after my divorce. I found a comfortable spot in the park to take a nap, when I woke up there was a bag from a local restaurant with a huge chicken Caesar salad in it and under the bag was two one hundred dollar bills held together with a paper clip.
I don't know who put it there, there was no note, nothing.
You can't convince me that wasn't selfless on some very nice persons part.

@Willow_Wisp I won't try to convince you. My only advice would be that you try to achieve the feeling that person got about his/her self by passing it on when you have the ability....then try to tell me that the person received nothing from their act of kindness.

@HankSherman Well I did feel good about my 10,000 plus hours of voluntary unsolicited community service, but now I clearly see that I'm obvious a greedy low life that simply struggled to enrich myself.
I'll make it a point to never do that again and I'm sorry about my vile self serving ways.

@Gwendolyn2018 My response was sarcasm.

@Gwendolyn2018 And we're not hell bent on taking over the government and forcing others to accept our stupid beliefs.

@Gwendolyn2018 I have an ex father-in-law who went back to his Pentecostal roots before he died because he "did not want to burn." He actually told me this.

@Gwendolyn2018 The constitution (at least the one most rational people follow) forbids the mixing of the two. I think banning would only have a negative effect. Besides now our side is gaining strength and soon the religious will just be another silly tiny minority.
I remember an article in the "Humanist" magazine about existential Risk Analysis. Basically, religiosity is a universal condition and it is estimated other intelligent life forms may have gone extinct because they couldn't get their act together. I still have the article.

@Gwendolyn2018 I grew up in the Midwest, at a time when everyone still helped each other, without having been asked for help. When I moved to California, that changed, and people were suspicious of my actions. The same is true here in Arizona. In California, people got used to me...and some are getting used to me here. But new people are always surprised and leery.

@Gwendolyn2018 when one lives where nearly everyone is ultra-conservative and one is openly liberal, on3 is always an outsider. Los Angeles is a special place. Most people are highly class conscious and into status symbols...basically selfish individuals, so they do not understand charitable people.

Are you sure.

@oldFloyd Well, I don't have a direct inroad into a warthog's self-image but they're reproducing so they must find each other attractive.

@Sgt_Spanky good point, I was thinking platypus.

@oldFloyd Now that's a messed up critter.

@Gwendolyn2018 Tell a Xian we should help the poor today and they'll just decry it as socialism by the libtards. Xians have gotten good at rewriting the messages of Jesus as needed to be more in line with their conservative values. That's where the prosperity gospel came from.

@Gwendolyn2018 Problem is if they ever wanted to get to the reality beyond those lies and half-truths they'd have to be willing to acknowledge they're being lied to by their faith and that ain't gonna happen.

I honestly do not see the correlation. But I do agree that they have no reservation about lying.

@MsKathleen You don't have to. I said it was my experience that they do.

@KKGator I know, but I do try to understand why others see things the way they do. I just do not understand how believing lies makes them lie.

@MsKathleen They are not rooted in reality. Nor do they seem to be rooted in their own personal morals. They just seem to want to appear that they are.
All the while, using that as an excuse to judge others, and try to tell everyone else how to live.

@KKGator Thanks, I get it.

@Gwendolyn2018 Some people truly believe the lies. Others use the lies to justify their own.
I think those that truly believe in gods are mentally ill.
I've always believed that.
No disrespect toward you or your mother.
Religion preys on people.

I would not see the wisdom in challenging the beliefs of any person, whether or no they had “one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel”.
Thank you for your service to humanity. I do believe we are all responsible for each other.

@Gwendolyn2018 Exactly! You do you is the very essence of cultural tolerance, its destruction is antithetical to a free society. It's the intolerance that's the problem, so why be an avatar of intolerance? Evangelicals are under the impression that opinions hold the secret to salvation, I think opinions are irrelevant to all but the person that holds those opinions. It's a tricky notion and easy to get wrong especially if like me you were forcefully coerced into religions of intolerance. It takes some maturing to leave fight or flight mode after being traumatized like that.

@Gwendolyn2018 Religion is used to make their hate and prejudice respectable.

@Gwendolyn2018 Your point about hate and prejudice is extremely well put.

@Gwendolyn2018 True, but their primary mission is fooling others, like their neighbors and fellow citizens, that they are righteous people.

@Gwendolyn2018 Not sure that it's mostly the leaders who are into fooling people. I have met way too many rank and file Christians who are hypocrites and phonies, that are into fooling those around them about their real character. As to whether believing lies makes you a liar, I'm not sure about that. Depends on the individual.

@Gwendolyn2018 I agree, people's bad intentions matter the most, because they say everything about their character.