Yikes

@pamagain well, as far as my poisoning, I didn’t realize that’s what happened until my therapist brought it to my attention and then reading about other people being poisoned by their spouses.

We had gone to Washington DC for a long weekend and had been sightseeing all day at the Smithsonian, got back to the hotel, he went out to get Chinese takeout because we were tired and had this lovely suite upgrade from travel points. He was gone for a long time for just going down the block and my food was lukewarm when he brought it back. I took maybe two bites and became violently ill.

I ran to the bathroom, and vomited until I thought my eyeballs would fall out. I called out to him to call an ambulance or something. He walked to the door and closed it with him on the other side, then closed door to bedroom area and I could hear the TV come on in the sitting room then he turned the volume way up to drown out my vomiting and calling out. I eventually passed out on bathroom floor. I regained consciousness about 3am and crawled to bed.

I woke up when he came in the bedroom late the next morning. He looked in the bathroom first and was really startled to see me in the bed. When I sat up, he jumped back, and turned ashen. Then he started yelling about me wasting vacation time lying in bed and acted like he didn’t know I had been sick.

I was too disoriented to argue with his gaslighting but I did notice when I stumbled out to main area that all evidence of our Chinese meal was gone. The reason I noticed was because the man had never cleaned up after himself in the 30 years I had known him. I asked about it and he said the smell was bothering him. The man couldn’t smell. He didn’t smell anything when the house across the street was on fire and I started looking through our house for source of smoke scent while he called me crazy. I opened the curtains facing the street and the room lit up from the flashing lights of arriving fire engines and flames engulfing house directly in front of us.

When I related this story as another example of what a callous monster my soon to be ex husband was to my therapist, she said, “he acted that way because he had poisoned you but you didn’t die, he was surprised that you survived.”

@Killtheskyfairy Wow. You're lucky to be alive

@Killtheskyfairy Please tell us he's not married now? Or involved with someone?

@pamagain Not good enough. I want to hear that he fell down a well, or was eaten by army ants, or is sharing a cell with a big dude named Bubba.

@Flyingsaucesir I know I’m lucky to be alive. It’s what I tell myself every time my PTSD gets bad. I have a rare blood type so stuff doesn’t work on me the same as it does on majority. The food was cold and tasted bad so I only took a few bites, then body immediately started rejecting it and I threw up that dinner food as well as stuff I had eaten for breakfast and lunch.

@pamagain he’s a narcissistic monster, so, of course, he was married within months of our divorce being finalized. See above. He married his assistant that I suspected he was banging when we were married. I think the poisoning was to try to get rid of me because I wasn’t taking his shit anymore and he didn’t want me to get half of our shit.

He’s trying to change terms of divorce so now I’m in a legal battle with him 9 years after our divorce. He and his lawyer tried to gaslight me at last hearing about this second wife so I pulled out my calendars and therapy diaries and started going through them as well as researching her. I remembered him telling me that she was such a nice person just fat and stupid so I said tell her to go back to school, doesn’t your company have 100% tuition reimbursement? Yep, and she did. They are saying she has huge student loans. Nope!

He also said that her husband was this “big loser” who lost his union job he had for 20 years and went back to school instead of getting a job straight away. I wondered what happened to him and googled him to find that he had died within 3 months of my ex filing for divorce from me. Obituary said his death was “unexpected.” So she got rid of him, got everything they had and probably more since they are both in HR and could get increased insurance on him with no one the wiser.

While I was going through diary again, I remembered that my cat had seizures that the vet couldn’t diagnose when I was married, but my calendar says they happened when he was home and they completely stopped after he no longer had access to her. That was doing something to her and probably led her to having an earlier death than she would have had.

I understand that being kept in conditions of total sensory deprivation can shatter the mind.

Exactly

I'm not really into causing suffering, even in assholes who richly deserve it. I just want to erase them quickly and cleanly.

But don't forget she was groomed into those beliefs by Chad Daybell. The focus is all on her, but he was the person whispering in her ear who needed to die in order for them to be together, and she was all for it, mostly because she believed his stories that they were destined to be together.

Weird stuff all around for sure, and people around her did take note, but nobody did anything meaningful to spare the lives of those who were killed. This is a story that needs to be told, so hopefully going forward people will speak up and go to the authorities when they see things like this in the works.

Yes, they both were looking so smug as they rebuffed questions about where her kids were. They also should have been asking how his wife died so suddenly.

Don't forget that Chad Daybell put the idea in Lori and her brother's minds that her then current husband as "turning" into a zombie and that is why her brother killed him. The boy JJ wasn't even a blood relation to Lori, but was the nephew of her former husband.

From all accounts I've heard, she was an angelic mother figure to both children until she got mixed up and mesmerized by the writings and messages from Chad Daybell. While she allowed the murders to happen, likely by the hands of her brother, it was Chad that convinced Lori and her brother that they all needed to be killed. Seemingly all for money, sex and power.

Why they didn't think anyone in their circle would think it was odd to get married 2 weeks after burying his wife, who died suddenly, makes one wonder and shudder is horror, that all this came about because of a science fiction type belief being peddled by a spiritual advisor. Interestingly Chad's children were spared death, but they must sure be in a weird place emotionally with their mom dead, and their dad awaiting his trial.

I'm just hoping they don't get a more lenient sentence due to the mental insanity of their religious beliefs. If your religious beliefs are telling you to kill people, just like political beliefs or ideology, show no mercy.

She a murderer.

I'm not hearing what kind of person or parent she was before she met Chad Daybell. I'm guessing that he tapped into something that was already there

@twill I think he tapped into her wish to be recognized as a goddess or saint of some kind, and he had her believing she was the wife or lover of all these heroic men of history and religion in her many past lives and that she and Daybell had been married before in their past lives.

She enjoyed thinking that was true to the point she allowed and embraced these deaths that seemed necessary to achieve her next destiny, to be the wife of the person who saved the special 144,000 people who were supposed to die in July 2020 when doomsday was supposed to occur. Surprise, it didn't happen. So, what now? Curious if she will come back to reality and become remorseful. I somehow doubt it, but wish she would as a well publicized warning to all those others out there who have the same beliefs.