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This garbage is but an example of "how tRump got there". This was on my FB site. (I countered with the fact that tRump was fined 2 Million and had to admit guilt in stealing funds out of his "charity".)

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We truly need a vomit ๐Ÿคฎ button.


This kind of thing reminds me that Trump isn't just some crazy guy who got lucky and became President. He's at the tip of a broader historical movement, and comprises the reactionary, moralistic, Christian right wing anti- modernist base, combined with a driving fascist inclined elite, the Steve Bannons and his ilk, who do not even want a feigned democratic America, but an oligarchy under the rule of a minority who always knows what is best for the US, and even the world. Even if Trump is removed, this phenomenon will not go away. It will become more dangerous, unless there is a huge mobilization of national sentiment against it. I'm not convinced such a mobilization is possible in a country like the US.

PS. Can someone remind me why anyone would have anything to do with Zuckercreep's Facecrap?

David1955 Level 8 Nov 9, 2019

@David1955 - I concur with most of your comments...but I'm compelled to debate you about Zuckerberg's FB

Please remember the rules of good start with name calling is to admit defeat.

FB went from a "chick selection site" to a worldwide platform for debate and free speech...all in less than 15 years.

Watch the MZ story, or at least read this link; []

He was a college kid who fell in to a clever scheme...then worked hard to make it happen. His FB is now a worldwide free-speech platform...and in many nations where free speech is restricted....he's a beam of light.

So again....I respect your made some profoundly true comments to start....but please don't slip in to the ugly, unsightly and defeatist attitude of name calling. That's what the worst folk...and usually the hard right - usually do on FB....and's a sign on the debate pyramid that you've failed (read the bottom of the pyramid).


Obama has many faults, but Trump is far worse. Denial of climate change will destroy America, unless the nation changes that attitude.

EdEarl Level 8 Nov 9, 2019

Like when he had his dad bribe a doctor so that he wouldn't have to serve, or when he stole from the veterans he allegedly raised money for. Another reason I have pretty well left FB,

glennlab Level 9 Nov 9, 2019

I left it 5 years ago and have never missed it.

@Redheadedgammy I have friends and family that the only way they know how to contact me is on FB or I would have left myself.


True patriot my ass! trump is a true con artist and nothing more!


The fact that he spells it โ€œOโ€™Bamaโ€ isnโ€™t even the stupidest thing about this meme.


Yuck ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

bobwjr Level 9 Nov 9, 2019

There was only one reason why Trump got here. Hillary!

If we did not choose lousy heroes, celebrate bad leaders, supported weak generals, we would not lose everywhere.Democrats have been on the losing streak since 2009 across the country at local, state and federal levels across the country. I knew Hillary would lose the minute she started running. She is not inspire imagination, does not excite and has made terrible mistakes including lying through her teeth.

Pete Buttigieg has said it clearly we have to think about what made it even possible that someone like Trump could even come within the cheating distance of the White House.

St-Sinner Level 8 Nov 12, 2019
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