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I wasn't aware that Trump was a serial rapist

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Because people get worked up over little things and are blase in the face of what really matters? It's why I kind of hate people.

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How about, instead of constantly falling back on "what about Bill Clinton?", we focus on the piece of shit in front of us?
You know, since he's the problem NOW!!

Do y'all think you could fucking manage THAT???

KKGator Level 9 June 24, 2019

I was not "falling back on Bill Clinton"

The original post refers to Bill Clinton (Impeaching a POTUS over a blow job).

I was responding to the original post pointing out that it was grossly distorted.

Bill Clinton had multiple allegations of sexual assault before he was elected.
We can say with almost 100% certainty Bill Clinton had sexual relations with an intern in the Oval Office.
We can say with almost 100% certainty Bill Clinton committed perjury.

That's what Bill Clinton was impeached over.

@BD66 No, that was NOT what he was impeached for. The ONLY thing he was impeached for lying about a blowjob. That's all. Nothing else.

@KKGator Lying under oath about receiving a blow job from an intern in the Oval office is what he was impeached for.

The original post states "impeached over a blow job"

If he had not committed perjury (a felony), he would have never been impeached.

@BD66 It doesn't fucking matter. It's done.
It's in the past and it has no bearing on the present.
45 is the piece of shit we are being forced to deal with now.
All the crimes he's been committing since day one are worse than lying about a blowjob.

@KKGator Clinton committed perjury with 100% certainty.

What crimes has Trump committed?

@BD66 He's been in violation of the Constitution since day one.
He's been profiting from his position, among other things.
Stop defending him.
He's a criminal.
Just because you refuse to acknowledge it doesn't make it any less true.

@KKGator
How has Trump violated the Constitution?
How has Trump profited from his position?

@BD66 How blind are you?

He's been in violation of the Emoluments Statute.
He profits from charging the Secret Service for lodgings and office space
whenever he leaves the White House to spene ANY time at any of his properties.
He IS guilty of obstruction, and he HAS lied repeatedly to the American people.
Just because you are too stubborn and too ignorant to accept that you fell for his con, doesn't make him innocent.
He is also an admitted serial sexual predator.
He freely admitted to grabbing women by their pussies. He said he just starts kissing women, whether they're willing or not.
Stop defending him.
He's belonged in prison since the 70s.

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I think it says a lot about our puritan upbringing, no matter how loudly we protest that we are agnostics of atheists, that we get so self-righteous about the sexual goings on of celebrities, and sometimes our neighbors. I abhor the idea that anyone, male or female - celebrity or not - will sexually assault anyone else. BTW, BD66, how about a similar list of the accusations against Donald Trump, or as he is known elsewhere, president pussy-grabber. The point is, we currently have a president who is such a mental midget that he uses all the words he knows, a yuge amount according to him, to make up names to call anyone who opposes him, including world leaders, who lies every time he opens his mouth, he'll lie when the truth would sound better, and who not only assaults women but minimizes them including his own wife. I'm sorry, the finger points many different ways when starting to call out celebrities for their sexual crimes. Clinton may have been impeached for perjury, but a POTUS who does what trump does and his own party looks the other way, in fact encourages him, i.e. M. McConnell in his nefarious dealings, is not my president and is the most anti-American president in my lifetime.

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Here is a full list of women who claimed Bill Clinton sexually assaulted them. Remember, Clinton was impeached for perjury, not for the alleged assults:

Plus, go back to 1998, every time the heat would go up on Clinton for his sexual encounters with Lewinsky in the Oval office, his perjury, etc. He actually would launch cruise missiles unprovoked into countries like Afganistan Somalia etc.

Trump "considered" a missile strike on Iran after they shot down one of our drones.

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While it bears repeating that he has never been convicted, here is a complete listing of the 12 women reported to have accused Bill Clinton of sexual misconduct.

  1. Eileen Wellstone (1969)
    Allegation: Sexual assault

An article published on a site called Capitol Hill Blue in 1999 asserted that "Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman, said Clinton sexually assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford where the future President was a student in 1969. A retired State Department employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed that he spoke with the family of the girl and filed a report with his superiors. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. The victim’s family declined to pursue the case."

While these allegations have never been proven and no woman has come forward to claim the story as her own, no sources have been able to reliably go so far as to claim the story is false, and Snopes only notes it as "unproven."

  1. Anonymous female student at Yale University (1972)
    Allegation: Sexual assault

The same article on Capitol Hill Blue further alleges that "a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident. The woman, tracked down by Capitol Hill Blue last week, confirmed the incident, but declined to discuss it further and would not give permission to use her name."

  1. Anonymous female student at the University of Arkansas (1974)
    Allegation: Sexual assault

Again from Capitol Hill Blue: "A female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complained to her faculty advisor who confronted Clinton, but Clinton claimed the student ''came on'' to him. The student left the school shortly after the incident. Reached at her home in Texas, the former student confirmed the incident, but declined to go on the record with her account. Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students."

  1. Anonymous female lawyer (1977)
    Allegation: Sexual assault

According to Roger Morris in his book Partners in Power, "A young woman lawyer in Little Rock claimed that she was accosted by Clinton while he was attorney general and that when she recoiled he forced himself on her, biting and bruising her. Deeply affected by the assault, the woman decided to keep it all quiet for the sake of her own hard-won career and that of her husband. When the husband later saw Clinton at the 1980 Democratic Convention, he delivered a warning. 'If you ever approach her,' he told the governor, 'I’ll kill you.' Not even seeing fit to deny the incident, Bill Clinton sheepishly apologized and duly promised never to bother her again."

  1. Juanita Broaddrick (1978)
    Allegation: Rape

Reports state that Broaddrick "claimed that Bill raped her when she was a volunteer on his campaign for governor while she was at a nursing student conference in Little Rock. She claimed that he forced himself on her while she screamed β€œplease stop,” and he bit her lip. Norma Rodgers, a friend who was sharing a hotel room with Broaddrick during the conference, confirmed her claims that she had been sexually assaulted. Broaddrick did not come forward with the claims for two decades, claiming she was intimidated and ashamed."

  1. Carolyn Moffet (1979)
    Allegation: Sexual assault

Moffet has stated for the record that "she met Gov. Clinton at a political fundraiser and was invited to his hotel room. 'When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn’t even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room.'”

RELATED: 6 Disturbing Details About The Louis C.K. Sexual Assault Allegations

  1. Elizabeth Ward (1983)
    Allegation: Unclear

Former Miss America Ward initially accused Clinton of forcible rape, but recanted in 1998 with an apology to Hillary for what she said was a consensual relationship.

  1. Sally Perdue (1983)
    Allegation: Unclear

The former Miss Arkansas Perdue has told the press that she while her sexual relationship with Clinton was consensual, "in 1992 she was visited by a Democratic Party staffer [who made it clear to her that they] 'knew that I went jogging by myself and he couldn’t guarantee what would happen to my pretty little legs.'"

  1. Paula Jones (1991)
    Allegation: Sexual harassment

Paula Corbin Jones, then an Arkansas state worker filed a sexual harassment suit against Clinton, in which she included the following details under penalty of perjury:

"He came over by the wingback chair close to where I was at. Then it's like he wasn't even paying attention to what I was saying to him. Then he goes, 'Oh, I love the way your hair flows down your back. And I was watching you,' and stuff like that. Downstairs. And then he did it again. Then he started β€” he pulled me over to him while he was leaning up against the wingback chair and he took his hands and was running them up my culottes. And they were long. They were down to my knees. They were long, dressy culottes. And he had his hand up, going up to my middle pelvic area, and he was kissing me on the neck, you know, and trying to kiss me on the lips and I wouldn't let him. And then I backed back. I said, 'Stop it. You know, I'm not this kind of girl.' I mean. And it still β€” and then I ran right over to where the couch was. I thought what am I going to do? I was trying to collect my thoughts. I did not know what to do. I was trying to collect my thoughts. I did not know what to do. After the second time β€” after the first time, I had rebuffed him. And then when I got over there and I kind of sat right there by the end of the couch on the β€” seemed like on the armchair part. And the next thing you know it, I turn around because he was kind of back over here, and he come over there, pulled his pants down, sat down and asked me to perform oral sex… He asked me would I kiss it. He goes β€” you know, I can see the look on his face right now. He asked me, 'Would you kiss it for me?' I mean, it was disgusting."

  1. Sandra Allen James (1991)
    Allegation: Sexual assault

Back to Capitol Hill Blue, political fundraiser James alleged that Clinton "pinned [her] against a wall and stuck his hands up her dress. She screamed so loud that the Arkansas State Police knocked on the hotel door and asked if everything was okay. When she told her Democratic fundraising boss about the incident, he told her to 'keep your mouth shut.'"

  1. Christy Zercher (1992)
    Allegation: Sexual assault

In Lt. Col. Robert β€œBuzz” Patterson's book, Dereliction of Duty, he states that Zercher, then a female stewardess on Air Force One, "complained that Clinton 'sexually molested” and 'cornered” her on [a] flight. Per Patterson, the woman only β€œwanted an apology.'"

  1. Kathleen Willey (1993)
    Allegation: Sexual assault

Willey claims that when she was working as a volunteer in the White House social office, Clinton "fondled her breast and placed her hand on his clothed, erect penis in the Oval Office while she was asking him for a White House job."

An article titled "The Trashing Of Clinton's Women" appeared in The Village Voice in 1999 closed with this:

"The president’s acolytes β€” such as Alan Dershowitz β€” continually bray, 'Sex lies! It’s all sex lies!' They insist that these thrown-away women are making all this up, including the threats and intimidation. But is every one of these women lying?"

Well, that is an excellent question. Indeed.

BD66 Level 8 June 24, 2019

I love how you probably copied/pasted this from some article based on what's between #6 and #7:
"RELATED: 6 Disturbing Details About The Louis C.K. Sexual Assault Allegations" LOL
You could have just posted the article. Thanks for the info though.

Really tired of your cut and paste posts. The whataboutism is boring as well. Time to block so I don't have to read your comments anymore.

@joeymf86 If I just posted the link, those of you suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome would not have clicked on it. Posting all the text from the article makes it clear the extent of the allegations against Bill Clinton and makes it more clear how ridiculous the original post was.

@BD66 I still fail to see why you seem to think that all of these allegations against Clinton somehow pardon Trump of his actions. Ok, so Clinton was a sleazebag, that doesn't make Trump a saint.

@Kynlei Clinton was a sleazebag, but once the Republicans took Congress in '95, he made reasonably good decisions, and the country prospered. Trump is a sleazebag, but he has made reasonably good decisions as POTUS, and the country has prospered. Clinton didn't deserve to be removed from office. Trump doesn't deserve to be removed from office.

@BD66 Bullshit. 45 has NOT made "reasonably good decisions", the economy is NOT better. Not for regular Americans who are the ones working two and three jobs to make ends meet.
It's only good for 45 and the 1%.
Trickle-down economics has NEVER worked.
It didn't work for Saint Ronnie.
It didn't work for either of the Bushes.
It's not working for 45.
Stop drinking the koolaid.
You're making yourself look ridiculous.

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You have a short memory:

Juanita Broaddrick
Main article: Juanita Broaddrick Β§ Allegations against Bill Clinton
In a 1999 episode of Dateline NBC, former Bill Clinton volunteer Juanita Broaddrick alleged that, in the late 1970s, Clinton raped her in her hotel room. According to Broaddrick, she agreed to meet with Clinton for coffee in the lobby of her hotel, but Clinton asked if they could go to her room to avoid a crowd of reporters; she agreed. Once Clinton had isolated her in her hotel room, Broaddrick states that he raped her. Broaddrick stated Clinton injured her lip by biting it during the assault.[10][11] In 1999, Clinton denied Broaddrick's allegations through his lawyer.

Supporters of Clinton have questioned her account by noting that, when Broaddrick testified about her alleged encounter with Clinton under oath, she denied having been raped by him. In her NBC interview alleging rape, Broaddrick stated that she had only denied being raped under oath to protect her privacy. Supporters of Clinton have also noted that she continued to support him, and appear at public events on his behalf, weeks after the alleged rape, and that Broaddrick stated that she couldn't remember the day or month the alleged incident occurred.[12] Broaddrick has stated that in 1978 she revealed the alleged assault to five intimates, and that they advised her not to cause trouble for herself by going public.

Leslie Millwee
In October of 2016, Leslie Millwee accused Bill Clinton of sexually assaulting her three times in 1980. Millwee was then an employee at a now-defunct Arkansas based television station, and Clinton was then governor of Arkansas. Millwee told Breitbart News that on each of the three occasions, Clinton came up behind her and fondled her breasts, and on the second occasion, he rubbed his crotch against her and came to orgasm.[13]

Paula Jones
Main article: Paula Jones Β§ Jones v. Clinton
According to Paula Jones' account, on May 8, 1991, she was escorted to Clinton's hotel room in Little Rock, Arkansas,[14] where he propositioned and exposed himself to her. She claimed she kept quiet about the incident until 1994, when a David Brock story in the American Spectator magazine printed an account. In 1994, Jones filed a federal lawsuit against Clinton, alleging sexual harassment. In the discovery stage of the suit, Jones' lawyers had the opportunity to question Clinton under oath about his sexual history; in the course of this testimony, Clinton denied having had a sexual affair with Monica Lewinsky, a denial that, after his affair with Lewinsky was subsequently exposed, eventually led to his impeachment for perjury and obstruction of justice.[15]

Several witnesses disputed Jones' account, including her sister and brother-in-law. These witnesses contended that she had described her encounter with Clinton as "happy" and "gentle". In addition, Jones had claimed to friends that Clinton had a particular deformity on his penis, a claim that was revealed to be false by investigators.[2]

In April 1998, the case was dismissed by judge Susan Webber Wright as lacking legal merit.[16] But Jones appealed Webber Wright's ruling, and her suit gained traction following Clinton's admission to having an affair with Monica Lewinsky in August 1998.[17] This admission indicated that Clinton may have lied under oath when he testified in the Jones case that he had never had a sexual relationship with Lewinsky.

On appeal, in the midst of his trial for impeachment based on his testimony in the Jones case, Clinton was faced with the prospect of having to go under oath again and testify more about his sexual history. Instead, Clinton agreed to an out-of-court settlement, paying Jones and her lawyers $850,000 to drop the suit; the vast majority of this money was used to pay Jones' legal fees.[18] Clinton's lawyer said that the president made the settlement only so he could end the lawsuit for good and move on with his life.[19]

Kathleen Willey
Main article: Kathleen Willey Β§ Claims
In 1998, Kathleen Willey alleged Clinton groped her without consent in the White House Oval Office in 1993.[20] Kenneth Starr granted her immunity for her testimony in his separate inquiry.[21][22]

Linda Tripp, the Clinton Administration staffer who secretly taped her phone conversations with Monica Lewinsky in order to expose the latter's affair with the president, testified under oath that Willey's sexual contact with President Clinton in 1993 was consensual, that Willey had been flirting with the president, and that Willey was happy and excited following her 1993 encounter with Clinton.[3] Six other friends of Willey confirmed Tripp's account in sworn testimony, stating that Willey had sought a sexual relationship with the president.[4] Ken Starr, who had deposed Willey in the course of investigating Clinton's sexual history, determined that she had lied under oath repeatedly to his investigators. Starr and his team therefore concluded that there was insufficient evidence to pursue her allegations further.[citation needed] In 2007, Willey published a book about her experiences with the Clintons.[23]

BD66 Level 8 June 24, 2019

Ok, damn, first of all I was 12 when he was impeached. I didn't know about all of that shit. Second, that doesn't make any of the statements about Trump any less true.

Perhaps it's your memory which is short. Clinton faced impeachment....but Trump should have a free pass? Republican logic = taking hypocrisy to a whole new level.

What a load of crap.

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Hypocrites

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