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Las Vegas debate reveals deepening Democratic Party crisis

[wsws.org]

{But the most important incident at the debate came at the very end, when the candidates were asked about the now increasingly likely scenario, with convention delegates divided up among four, five or even six candidates, that no candidate wins an outright majority. Should the candidate with the most delegates, albeit less than a majority, become the nominee?

Sanders said yes. All the others—Bloomberg, former Vice President Joe Biden, Senator Elizabeth Warren, Senator Amy Klobuchar, and former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg—said no, declaring that the “process” of the nominating convention must be allowed to play out.}

To little and way to late in the game by Sanders. He should have been spelling this out right out of the gate in debate 1. Hell, he should have been calling out the DNC since they rigged the system against him in 2016 none the less! And many of us here in this group have been spelling it out well before this campaign began as the rules were adjusted and the obvious overflow of candidates became public.

{The debate itself demonstrated the basic class orientation of the Democratic Party. As usual in these affairs, but perhaps more strongly than any previous debate, nearly all significant issues of foreign and domestic policy were excluded. There were only a handful of references to the deepening social crisis in America, the harrowing conditions of life facing tens of millions of workers and youth, and the turn to police-state methods by the Trump administration.}

In other words. You and I don't matter to these people! The people outside our country in which our war mongering policies effect are of no concern to them either. When the words American people rolls from their lips the term is delivered from an empty vessel of entertainment for the ruling class. The vast amount of the population has been conditioned to believe this election is about one thing only. While all other real issues have been silently moving forward towards further chaos of extreme right agendas of the failed capitalist system of which they also are a player within. Their system has no other place to go! And avoiding that discussion within the conditioned narrative avoids the need to repeat the same lip service rhetoric we've heard from election cycle to election cycle for the past 5 decades. When Trump is a tool in many ways.

{There was virtually no discussion of American foreign policy or events taking place outside the United States. There was no mention of the mass struggles sweeping Latin America, or of the coronavirus epidemic, the mounting economic and political tensions between China and the United States, the festering conflicts in the Middle East, or the rise of the fascist far right in Europe.}

And in the US. And they all neglected their duties in bringing that out during the Ukrainegate episode as I did here for the past several months. Joe Biden for his part in that should have been shamed out of public let alone allowed to be on a debate stage running for president!

{Sanders himself only confirmed that his “socialism” has nothing to do with an actual struggle by working people to overthrow and replace the profit system. He calls only for higher taxes on the rich, for a somewhat fairer distribution of wealth and income, while maintaining that such changes can be accomplished through the election of a Democratic president and a Democratic Congress.}

How fucking pitiful! 😟 Sanders, even if he was to pull this off, would need a vast replacement of senate and congress seats by progressive and socialist mined people to orchestrate any sense of change. Simply stating a democratic president and congress will get the job done is so god dam futile it's ludicrous. It will take a mass introduction of green party and socialist equality party people to achieve change! His failure to express the need of this type of help is essentially telling of his betrayal to his supporters. All one needs to do is remind themselves of 8 years of Obama, and the present time of a democratic controlled congress under Trump. 8 years of Obama brought us to Trump, and the present congress has gas lighted all the policies mentioned here for Trump in support. So much so that the very few like Sanders and AOC/the squad, could easily give lips service as opposition and still these measures passed with ease.

William_Mary 8 Feb 22
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No mention of foreign policy because overall, Americans don't give a shit about the rest of the world. There is no value in talking about it if you want votes. Most people are ignorant of the way our foreign policy harms us. And they wouldnt care if it harms anyone else.

GreatNani Level 8 Feb 22, 2020

@altschmerz yes true. I have that in my family as well. Shortsighted and ignorant.

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