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When the Establishment questions the Establishment on the existence of the Deep State, you get this. I imagine many of us who have a belief in the possibility of such shadow working groups view this belief in somewhat different ways. I remember back in the 80's the Deep State was referred to as the Fellowship. The Establishment was simply referred to as corrupt politicians. We didn't really place the CIA and FBI into these groups until after the 60's? when it started to become clear they weren't working for the American people, but some other agenda clearly for anything but American. All the other intelligence agencies were quite mute in their role, until 9/11 and those created since. Hell, I'm just now learning of the OSS, (Office of Strategic Services) from watching the newest show about the inventor Nikola Tesla on the History Channel. It seems the OSS and FBI had a great deal of activity in helping to degrade Tesla's works and steal his documents after his death. I have to wonder what this country and planet would be like, to the better, if Tesla didn't have so many people on a quest to belittle his great work. Anyways. Most of us on this journey to enlighten the world population would place the most wealthy in very powerful positions as the Deep State. These people pretty much set up the way we are operating today during the industrial age. Families such as Rockefeller, Morgan, Vanderbilt. via control over shipping, shipping lanes, financial institutes, railroads. With WWI kicking off the military complex. The Establishment being the politicians and intelligent agencies all working at hand to ensure the agenda go according. It's not any one country, but all within the westernized label. I guess even that needs a name of sort. Within the article you'll find the denial by some and the fight against by another. O! wait! Would that be the same entity!?! You be the judge.

  Deep State Swamp Monster Says There Is No Deep State

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William_Mary 8 May 26
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I think it is more criminal elements and multi-nationals running the politicians with PAC money. There are people in the CIA and NSA who are convinced war is imminent, and they may act like a deep state.

EdEarl Level 8 May 26, 2018

The PAC money is to ensure the status quo keep power by drowning out any real progressives from being able to gain any ground. And the MSM is their tool to reduce the chances of the population from knowing they have other choices. I would argue Sanders was a major blow back for them! A fixed shrill put out as a fake candidate against Clinton they had no idea we socialist and left leaning progressives would so strongly stand behind and donate our money to. The grass within the grass roots movement became so high they had to criminally, visually, steal that primary with all the nation watching. Outing themselves to a point of the circus still being waged today within fake accusations and investigations. Even drawing Britain in as a measure of justifying it with another falsity along with their Russian narrative. As I mentioned in another post this morning, all roads lead directly to the Clinton's in all aspects of the entire election cycle, yet she and Bill's actions during it have not been touched by any entity of our checks and balance system. One would think with the way the republicans over the years have seemingly been at war with the Clinton's all these years, they would use the gold mine of occurrences during that election cycle to wage a number of investigations. Nota, silche, crickets. Sanders is a democrat still spewing his con we all know now, Trump let Hillieary off, as did the republicans, and there's a fake war between our intelligence agencies and Trump. And the majority of the population is still stuck in the illusion that the MSM keeps alive. We are slowly making progress, to slowly?

@William_Mary An excellent synopsis.

@EdEarl thank you.

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Don't forget the Rothschilds. They also play a major part in how and what happens globally. "Every war is a banker's war."

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