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15 Questions Robert Mueller Must Answer | The American Conservative
t1nick comments on May 7, 2019:
Questions are slanted and biasly stated. Presumed answers in the way questions were structured. But what else would you expect from the American Conservative.
WilliamCharles replies on May 7, 2019:
I noticed the source, but didn't think they needed to be dismissed on those grounds alone. The questions were something I'd like answers to as well.
Rick Santorum: Separation Of Church And State A Communist Idea, Not An American One
Kojaksmom comments on Apr 21, 2019:
In my opinion The ultimate goal of most Christians in the u.s is installing a theocracy. The god dude will not bless our nation until all of inhabitans worship Christianity.
WilliamCharles replies on May 7, 2019:
I've always felt that if they really believed in their own shit, they wouldn't have to try to get the government to indoctrinate people. Even if the whole nation became like Biff Tannen's sin city in BTTF2, it would just mean those who were really able to resist temptation would be the only ones who made the cut, no?
Rick Santorum: Separation Of Church And State A Communist Idea, Not An American One
AlasBabylon comments on May 1, 2019:
It's COMMUNIST! One more example of appealing to emotions to bypass the intellect.
WilliamCharles replies on May 7, 2019:
It harkens back to the day when they used to pronounce it "CAW-muh-nist."
15 Questions Robert Mueller Must Answer | The American Conservative
thinktwice comments on May 7, 2019:
He totally used the summary Barr gave as his jumping off point...Mueller is wiser and smarter than he is given credit for...if he had come out and answered some of the things in the questions it would have created denial and incredulity in a direction that he did not want to give to either Democrats...
WilliamCharles replies on May 7, 2019:
Thanks. I like your analysis.
15 Questions Robert Mueller Must Answer | The American Conservative
Seeker3CO comments on May 7, 2019:
I agree that there are a lot of questions out there for Mueller to answer. There a lot of questions out there for Barr to answer. There are even more questions for tRump to answer. How 'bout we have a good old fashioned sharing of information based on the questions of the people? Perhaps that could ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 7, 2019:
Absolutely. I'm for more transparency from our government in general, and the other individuals you mention both specifically and in the broader context.
Let us be grateful to the people who make us happy; they are the charming gardeners who make our ...
Freedompath comments on May 7, 2019:
Without people who care about everyone’s wellbeing we would be improvised. It seems important to look for them everywhere.
WilliamCharles replies on May 7, 2019:
@Freedompath The edit button is our friend. 😁
MAH.THUR.FAH.CURSE. Just got a 7-day ban from Facebook for observing that Sacha Baron Cohen ...
WilliamCharles comments on May 6, 2019:
After 3 days, almost half the time of the ban itself, I got the ruling from Facebook. It is considered hate speech. They provided their Community Standards link, but with no actual feedback, there's no way of telling what specifically crossed the line. That is the nature of repressing speech in ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 7, 2019:
Asked the review to be reviewed based on my concerns. They responded (generically) that the ruling stands with no other (i.e., useful) feedback. Even small companies generally have a customer service that at least addresses the issues involved when a complaint is lodged. Zuckerberg hides behind an impenetrable labyrinth.
British Royal Family Coverage
altschmerz comments on May 6, 2019:
I care about the British royal family as much as I care about the Kardashians – which is to say, not at all.
WilliamCharles replies on May 6, 2019:
Less than zero sounds about right. It seems to me there's no reason to enable and elevate these anachronisms, particularly since they were directly involved in so much plunder historically worldwide. Time for them to stop living on the dole. If, as alleged, they're good for tourism, let them open a theme park (on their own dime of course).
Joe Biden wants us to forget his past. We won't | Adolph L Reed Jr and Cornel West | Opinion | The ...
DenoPenno comments on May 6, 2019:
Will we forget Trump's past? I would like to be able to forget his present.
WilliamCharles replies on May 6, 2019:
The notion of having a nominee slightly less objectionable than Trump seems like a prescription for disaster. I held my nose to vote for him on the Obama ticket even without the Creepy Uncle Joe part. A "hold your nose" Democratic candidate would likely give Dolt 45 a 2nd term. And nobody sane wants that.
Hello single, non-custodial parents! My very sweet boyfriend is needing some advice on seeing his ...
WilliamCharles comments on May 6, 2019:
So many factors involved in this. Very good of you to be so supportive. I know next to nothing about autism, but maybe starting with, "I want you to know I love you," and then sitting quietly and following the boy's lead. The non-verbal communication of a smile might go a long way. I'm also ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 6, 2019:
@Carin I thought so too. The hand shakers look like little business sophisticates, the fist bumpers and high fivers seem to love the playfulness, and all of those choosing a hug look like they really appreciate that simple act of them each getting to show their love for the other. I laughed at that one little girl practically throwing herself at the teacher, and felt so good for the shy looking girl at the very end.
Hello single, non-custodial parents! My very sweet boyfriend is needing some advice on seeing his ...
WilliamCharles comments on May 6, 2019:
So many factors involved in this. Very good of you to be so supportive. I know next to nothing about autism, but maybe starting with, "I want you to know I love you," and then sitting quietly and following the boy's lead. The non-verbal communication of a smile might go a long way. I'm also ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 6, 2019:
@Lucy_Fehr I love how the kids get to make the pick here. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5UYkhMxTev4
Hello single, non-custodial parents! My very sweet boyfriend is needing some advice on seeing his ...
WilliamCharles comments on May 6, 2019:
So many factors involved in this. Very good of you to be so supportive. I know next to nothing about autism, but maybe starting with, "I want you to know I love you," and then sitting quietly and following the boy's lead. The non-verbal communication of a smile might go a long way. I'm also ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 6, 2019:
@Lucy_Fehr Perfect! I'm a fist bump man myself. I think it must be my simian heritage.😄
Hello single, non-custodial parents! My very sweet boyfriend is needing some advice on seeing his ...
WilliamCharles comments on May 6, 2019:
So many factors involved in this. Very good of you to be so supportive. I know next to nothing about autism, but maybe starting with, "I want you to know I love you," and then sitting quietly and following the boy's lead. The non-verbal communication of a smile might go a long way. I'm also ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 6, 2019:
Oh and btw just to make clear, this advice comes from someone with no kids.
Joe Biden wants us to forget his past. We won't | Adolph L Reed Jr and Cornel West | Opinion | The ...
DenoPenno comments on May 6, 2019:
Will we forget Trump's past? I would like to be able to forget his present.
WilliamCharles replies on May 6, 2019:
I cannot stand Trump and largely blame the DNC and Team Hillary for not being able to beat their own Pied Piper. The Dems should have done something about GOP voter suppression as well prior to the election. My guess is they worried it might have put their own election shenanigans in the spotlight, and felt certain that Hillary was a shoe-in. The DCCC has shown quite clearly they'd rather lose with a centrist than win with a progressive. Even though Biden was able to gain the vice-presidency on Obama's coattails, he's damaged goods. He had his chance, but that ship has sailed.
Going to a First Communion ceremony tomorrow as an unofficial "uncle" not related by blood. I was ...
WilliamCharles comments on May 6, 2019:
Something that came to mind witnessing that shared experience by the adherents. :-----: "Vonnegut found another “echo of the Sermon on the Mount” in the work of Mark Twain. In a talk he gave on the hundredth anniversary of the completion of Mark Twain’s “fanciful house in Hartford, ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 6, 2019:
Speaking of Kurt... "Any time I see a person fleeing from reason and into religion, I think to myself, There goes a person who simply cannot stand being so goddamned lonely anymore." ~ Kurt Vonnegut -- “Palm Sunday: An Autobiographical Collage”
Going to a First Communion ceremony tomorrow as an unofficial "uncle" not related by blood. I was ...
Deiter comments on May 5, 2019:
Well then, it's a noble duty. I've not been to a Communion but I've been to a bat mitzvah, an Orthodox wedding, a Catholic and Baptist funeral, and have even attended a Tongva Bear Dance ceremony which few non-Native people ever get to do. I viewed them all as interesting anthropological events. ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 6, 2019:
@Deiter Thank you for sharing that. The mission system also came to my mind during the ceremony. It was at a church in Echo Park district of Los Angeles. It is a predomently latino community and had a Philipinno pastor doing the service in English and Spanish. As I was watching the kids in their procession towards the alter, the faces reflected their indigenous origins and mestizo heritage. It brought to mind the brutality that imposed the traditions to the culture. Yes, there was the multi-generational bonding seen expressed in the rituals, but that was originally instilled by force and cruelty.
MAH.THUR.FAH.CURSE. Just got a 7-day ban from Facebook for observing that Sacha Baron Cohen ...
TheMiddleWay comments on May 2, 2019:
It's not the facts go against FB. It's that conspiracy minded interpretation of facts, such as the one you present, go against FB. ;)
WilliamCharles replies on May 5, 2019:
@TheMiddleWay Just to be clear, you're saying you completed graduate school? And not a lot of discussion on the topic overall is coming from you, just an attempt to be a gadfly.
Going to a First Communion ceremony tomorrow as an unofficial "uncle" not related by blood. I was ...
MrBeelzeebubbles comments on May 5, 2019:
My brother asked me to be Godfather to his eldest. Couldn't do it. Couldn't stand up in front of all those people and lie. He and his wife were kinda pissed. I think he came to understand my position, but she never liked me, and probably never will. Oh well.
WilliamCharles replies on May 5, 2019:
I would think there would be a way to be an atheist Godfather. To state your intentions as being supportive of the child, while openly rejecting the elements you consider superstition. That would certainly make for an interesting ceremony.
Going to a First Communion ceremony tomorrow as an unofficial "uncle" not related by blood. I was ...
Deiter comments on May 5, 2019:
Well then, it's a noble duty. I've not been to a Communion but I've been to a bat mitzvah, an Orthodox wedding, a Catholic and Baptist funeral, and have even attended a Tongva Bear Dance ceremony which few non-Native people ever get to do. I viewed them all as interesting anthropological events. ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 5, 2019:
Please share your more of your Tongva ceremony experience sometime, whether here, or in a separate post. It sounds fascinating.
Going to a First Communion ceremony tomorrow as an unofficial "uncle" not related by blood. I was ...
Mofo1953 comments on May 5, 2019:
Being an atheist does not prevent me or impede me to go to certain religious activities I am invited to, people know I am an atheist, my presence there is akin to being a jew invited to a christening, or a catholic invited to a Bar Mitzvah, I am not there to convert anyone to atheism nor there to be...
WilliamCharles replies on May 5, 2019:
Very true. I do not proselytize. Those close to me already know, and if the subject happens to come up, if appropriate I might choose exchange views. One thing discussed at the gathering afterward, was the current practice of sex changes for minors. We all seemed to agree that is wrong to alter/reassign a child's gender through hormones or surgery. That would be a decision for the individual adult. I also shared my experience at my Confirmation ceremony. I remember the priest presiding over it in his comments to all of us said, "If you don't get anything out of going to mass on Sunday to fellowship with other Catholics... for God's sake, don't go!" It took a few years down the line for that to really sink in (though I was never much of a churchgoer regardless).
MAH.THUR.FAH.CURSE. Just got a 7-day ban from Facebook for observing that Sacha Baron Cohen ...
TheMiddleWay comments on May 2, 2019:
It's not the facts go against FB. It's that conspiracy minded interpretation of facts, such as the one you present, go against FB. ;)
WilliamCharles replies on May 5, 2019:
@TheMiddleWay Did you really finish graduate school or are you just catfishing. Your comprehension level seems seriously off. [continued] I find this topic quite relevant more and more. It's why I'm putting it out there for discussion. I have my own views, some more established than others, but I find your statement that they can do what they want merely because they're a private corporation both simplistic and disingenuous. It should also be noted that pressure is put on Zuckerberg and other social media platforms to "do something about" speech and content that troubles them. Since they have the ability to cost these rntities money as well as potentially restrict them in quite extreme ways, to pretend there's not a governmental component in all this is just plain wrong. Many of the points I make or will be making are things to be considered, not a definitive argument that is meant to provide a final ruling. Your kneejerk contrarianism seems to be nothing more than a desire for oneupsmanship. Knock yourself out. We have "public airwaves" that corporate entities control and pay little "rent" for doing so. We have a platform that serves as a public square, but can manipulate and shape at will the content allowed, without justification or explanation. The community "pays" by providing their own content, and the communities they create and material they share, which is then data mined for profit, in ways that are often detrimental to us. Imagine that a person has been convicted of crimes using the telephone, and afterward gets blocked from purchasing or using various telephone services. Probably quite possible in the future. Maybe there are a few carriers left for the person to use, but with limited functionality. There are parallel to social media platforms. The analogy is not direct comparison, but still applicable in ways. People rely on social media platforms for news, activism, and to share information crucial to bringing about positive change. To be able hobble such activities at will with no clear standards or means of redress by the people/entities shut down based on corporate interests above all else is the problem. Whether you don't understand that or merely pretend not to also seems quite commonplace from a large number of people.
Blithering Idiots Express Fear That Putin Will Rig 2020 Election For Trump
Aryn comments on May 4, 2019:
No one has seen the evidence because William Barr is refusing to release it. 4000 pages of it. He also admitted to not looking at the evidence before declaring no obstruction. You, like Barr, have been suckered by the most successful con man in American history. ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 5, 2019:
@Aryn Rather than me being able to definitely define "Russiagate," I'll present what I think are the ways it is used, particularly in the media. The reason for this is I think they imply the more nefarious intonations of it, even as they're offering weak, nonexistant, or circumstantial evidence. [saving first to add my list in edit later - kind of a busy day]
Blithering Idiots Express Fear That Putin Will Rig 2020 Election For Trump
Tooreen comments on May 4, 2019:
Russia if your listening
WilliamCharles replies on May 5, 2019:
@Tooreen What premise? I have no problem with further inestigation and impeachment, and actually encourage Congress to do so with Trump. He's committed/committing crimes in office. What I reject based on lack of evidence so far is Russiagate (the notion that Russian interference swayed an election and that Trump meaningfully enabled them to do so). Russiagate - noun 1) the government of Russia and/or their assets such as any entities working with or for them hacked our election system (electronic voting machines, voter databases, etc.) to change votes or to scrub the voter rolls of legitimate voters, in order to change the outcome of the US presidential election. This is the worst case scenario and is often implied by the media in their relentless and alarmist coverage. Also often implied in this as well is that Donald Trump took an active role in assisting in these efforts and/or covering up that it took place or was even attempted. 2) the government of Russia and/or their assets such as any entities working with or for them did conspire to sow discord with the American public in online social media outlets in the form of false stories, polls, political groups, and devisive memes, posts, comments, and replies. This included, agents of Russia, trolls and troll farms, AI bots, fellow travellors, and "useful idiots." The budget of such activities was able compete in cyberspace against other massive campaign war chests, and create a substational number of impressions through their original placement, shares, retweets, etc., and media coverage of same. Allegations are made that Donald Trump took an active role in assisting in these efforts and/or covering up that it took place. 3) to be continued...
Blithering Idiots Express Fear That Putin Will Rig 2020 Election For Trump
Tooreen comments on May 4, 2019:
Russia if your listening
WilliamCharles replies on May 4, 2019:
@Aryn Trump wasn't joking about Wikileaks. He's a goddamn liar and his bullshit stories change like the wind. He's always been a coward and someone probably told him throwing Assange under the bus would be a smart move for him.
Blithering Idiots Express Fear That Putin Will Rig 2020 Election For Trump
Tooreen comments on May 4, 2019:
Russia if your listening
WilliamCharles replies on May 4, 2019:
@Tooreen A joke by you, Hillary, or both? Was Trump joking? Did Russia take him seriously and act on it, in your opinion? Might China?
Blithering Idiots Express Fear That Putin Will Rig 2020 Election For Trump
Aryn comments on May 4, 2019:
No one has seen the evidence because William Barr is refusing to release it. 4000 pages of it. He also admitted to not looking at the evidence before declaring no obstruction. You, like Barr, have been suckered by the most successful con man in American history. ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 4, 2019:
@Aryn That is an excellent question. Just got home. Will get to it in a bit.
Going to a First Communion ceremony tomorrow as an unofficial "uncle" not related by blood. I was ...
WilliamCharles comments on May 4, 2019:
In the lions' den.
WilliamCharles replies on May 4, 2019:
Will write more later, but I generally find the rituals largely alien now (ex-Catholic).
Blithering Idiots Express Fear That Putin Will Rig 2020 Election For Trump
Cutiebeauty comments on May 4, 2019:
Evidence does exist about Russian interference... They, at a minimum, used the internet... That has been proven already...
WilliamCharles replies on May 4, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty Later. In church at the mo. (you'll lose that bet)
Blithering Idiots Express Fear That Putin Will Rig 2020 Election For Trump
Tooreen comments on May 4, 2019:
Russia if your listening
WilliamCharles replies on May 4, 2019:
Hillary put the call out for China to hack Trump's tax records. Seriously (was she serious? Does that matter?)
Blithering Idiots Express Fear That Putin Will Rig 2020 Election For Trump
Aryn comments on May 4, 2019:
No one has seen the evidence because William Barr is refusing to release it. 4000 pages of it. He also admitted to not looking at the evidence before declaring no obstruction. You, like Barr, have been suckered by the most successful con man in American history. ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 4, 2019:
Obstruction is not what the Russiagate narrative was about. Those who promote(d) Russiagate keep moving the goalpost.
Blithering Idiots Express Fear That Putin Will Rig 2020 Election For Trump
Aryn comments on May 4, 2019:
bill barr is obstructing about obstruction. are you brave enough to consider that you might be wrong and read this? somehow, i think not. ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 4, 2019:
I've no doubt obstruction has taken place. It's the Russiagate narrative that is so far unsupported.
Blithering Idiots Express Fear That Putin Will Rig 2020 Election For Trump
Cutiebeauty comments on May 4, 2019:
Evidence does exist about Russian interference... They, at a minimum, used the internet... That has been proven already...
WilliamCharles replies on May 4, 2019:
Used the internet to offer some comically bad memes making a few impressions dwarfed by the daily traffic on social media. I'm more concerned with dark money and AIPAC's impact.
Blithering Idiots Express Fear That Putin Will Rig 2020 Election For Trump
bobwjr comments on May 4, 2019:
Wow Republican spin doctors are hard at work this time they have Russian trolls working already look at evidence.t . Ken Star and Republicans pulled out all the stops on Clinton both times in and her now turning a blind eye for trump wanting the report hidden. Get the report unedited read it they ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 4, 2019:
I have no doubt Trump is corrupt AF and o struction of justice was committed. But that is not the same thing as the Russians stole the election from Hillary. The histrionics over what has not been established is troubling.
Going to a First Communion ceremony tomorrow as an unofficial "uncle" not related by blood. I was ...
FrostyJim comments on May 3, 2019:
I'm not so sure I could be so tolerant myself... I know I would not attend a Klan rally no matter what connection I felt with a member or their child? Too much pain and suffering in the world is committed in the name of religion - any religion ...but I am not just an atheist I am an anti-theist. It ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
@FrostyJim And yet Hogan's Heroes made it to TV. Hell, just being an American makes me part of a murderous band of ratfuckers. I don't see that great a benefit in cutting all ties with family and friends over their religious delusions considering.
Going to a First Communion ceremony tomorrow as an unofficial "uncle" not related by blood. I was ...
RavenCT comments on May 3, 2019:
Hey I am a Godparent and became one as an Atheist. It just meant I would help morally guide the child in the absence of a parent. And as it turned out one parent died young. I had no problem standing up for that purpose - back on the day - despite the silly costumes on two of us. Not all ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
I most often see it as an opportunity to represent for freethought, and express that my support is strictly from a humanist perspective.
Going to a First Communion ceremony tomorrow as an unofficial "uncle" not related by blood. I was ...
FrostyJim comments on May 3, 2019:
I'm not so sure I could be so tolerant myself... I know I would not attend a Klan rally no matter what connection I felt with a member or their child? Too much pain and suffering in the world is committed in the name of religion - any religion ...but I am not just an atheist I am an anti-theist. It ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
@FrostyJim Very true, although I remember reading that the percentage of child molesters among other groups (teachers, Protestants, JWs, Orthodox Jews, etc.) was roughly the same. The Catholic Church hierarchy has a horrible record of dealing with the problem. Another comparison I would make as far as directing outrage to the proper target is the US military. There are most definitely war criminals in combat operations, and some see anyone involved in the military at all as culpable. I don't think that is entirely fair.
Going to a First Communion ceremony tomorrow as an unofficial "uncle" not related by blood. I was ...
SeaGreenEyez comments on May 3, 2019:
That's wonderful. I'm very much the same. I've supported all of my theist friends/loved ones in all sorts of "Christian-y" events & places. I don't regret doing so, but I certainly would've regretted not doing so.
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
That's how I see it. None of my friends are pushy about their religionism, and the going joke is that I've made them all promise to sneak me ice water in hell if I'm wrong. I also warn them, "Don't get caught!" 😄
Going to a First Communion ceremony tomorrow as an unofficial "uncle" not related by blood. I was ...
bobwjr comments on May 3, 2019:
Excellent supportive of family they are tolerant of others that is important
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
Thx. That's the way I look at it.
Going to a First Communion ceremony tomorrow as an unofficial "uncle" not related by blood. I was ...
LucyLoohoo comments on May 3, 2019:
Sweet!
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
It's a ways away and I'll be getting up quite early to get there, but it's a big deal to me to support her and her family.
Going to a First Communion ceremony tomorrow as an unofficial "uncle" not related by blood. I was ...
Lovemylife1 comments on May 3, 2019:
So glad you can all be together for her important event. I know there are others who would never participate in a religious ceremony but this hasn't been an issue for me.
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
I also don't care about spectator sports, but never have a problem showing support for children when called for.
Going to a First Communion ceremony tomorrow as an unofficial "uncle" not related by blood. I was ...
Seeker3CO comments on May 3, 2019:
I went to a baptism a few years ago due to the usual familial obligations. Made sure I flashed the horns in the photo op and remained silent (conspicuous due to standing order) during all prayers and such. Fuck them. If they want to invite non-believers, rationals, then the get what they asked for....
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
I rarely stand or sit on command. I also find the part where you give the greeting of peace to each other is quite uncomfortable. More than once I've just started straight ahead till they're done. It's too damned forced for my tastes.
Going to a First Communion ceremony tomorrow as an unofficial "uncle" not related by blood. I was ...
FrostyJim comments on May 3, 2019:
I'm not so sure I could be so tolerant myself... I know I would not attend a Klan rally no matter what connection I felt with a member or their child? Too much pain and suffering in the world is committed in the name of religion - any religion ...but I am not just an atheist I am an anti-theist. It ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
Raised Catholic myself. Not quite the Klan in my eyes (the people... the hierarchy is another matter). I think me being a known infidel showing the colors is a positive. At least I won't eat any babies in front of them.
"Make Elizabeth Warren Hate Again" "We don’t just need Elizabeth Warren’s ideas. We need her ...
jerry99 comments on May 3, 2019:
I've said it before, Bernie and AOC have gotten a huge following because they bring passion to the table. I think Michael Bennett has that too, at least from one example, and maybe that will help him get some greater visibility among the crowded Dem field.
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
Bernie teamed with Tulsi or Nina sounds like a winning combination. There's elements of the Warren candidacy I like, and some I don't. Wouldn't object to her as VP.
MAH.THUR.FAH.CURSE. Just got a 7-day ban from Facebook for observing that Sacha Baron Cohen ...
WilliamCharles comments on May 2, 2019:
Re: Baron Cohen's Zionism. :-----: "There is one descriptor that is too infrequently applied to him: Zionist shill. Plenty of writers have noted Baron Cohen’s ardent Zionism, but few have suggested that his Zionism should cast him in a negative light (“Before ‘The Dictator’ and ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
@indirect76 In addition to your initial dig regarding a site with intifada in the name (there are movements that deal with the occupation with both peaceful resistance and resistance by force - an electronic intifada is online resistance by disseminating information), you insist that you see nothing indicating that Baron Cohen shills for Zionism. But linked in that very article is this report. It supports what both the original author and I assert. That Baron Cohen is more than willing (even in the guise of comedy), to create a false portrayal of Palestinians in order to further the lie that they are the obstacle to peaceful coexistence. Your ignorance of that shows just how effective that relentless hasbara is. :-----: "The interview with Baron Cohen was set up via Awni Jubran, a journalist for the Palestinian news agency, PNN, who received a call from the film's producer. "My friend Awni told me they wanted a Palestinian campaigner to talk about the situation for a documentary, to show young people what life is like in the Palestinian territories," says Abu Aita. He met Baron Cohen one week later, accompanied by Jubran and Sami Awad, founder of the Holy Land trust – although Baron Cohen described the two to Letterman as bodyguards for "the terrorist". Abu Aita says that Brüno's crew chose the location, which is under total Israeli control – and which appears in the film as Ein el-Hilweh refugee camp, in Lebanon. "We trust people and we never refuse an opportunity to discuss the Palestinian cause," he says. "We went upstairs to one of the hotel rooms and talked about the Palestinian situation for over two hours," says Abu Aita, adding that Brüno seemed serious – although his knowledge was limited. At the very end of the discussion, Baron Cohen asked a couple of questions about al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden, which Abu Aita considered oddly out of place and which he asked the translator to repeat. Then, when Brüno asked to be kidnapped, Abu Aita says that his actual reply was edited out. "I was angered by the question," says Abu Aita. "I said, first of all I'm not a terrorist. Second, you are a guest here, so I must take care of you until you leave my country."" https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jul/31/bruno-israel-terrorist
MAH.THUR.FAH.CURSE. Just got a 7-day ban from Facebook for observing that Sacha Baron Cohen ...
TheMiddleWay comments on May 2, 2019:
It's not the facts go against FB. It's that conspiracy minded interpretation of facts, such as the one you present, go against FB. ;)
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
@racocn8 What's the opposite of an SJW? An Apathetic Ostrich? To me, one of the most appealing aspects of humanism (most vital even), is doing battle in the arena of ideas. I am not irrationally wedded to my own views either, so if someone can put forth a more compelling argument, I'm more than willing to reasses and revise my own.
MAH.THUR.FAH.CURSE. Just got a 7-day ban from Facebook for observing that Sacha Baron Cohen ...
WilliamCharles comments on May 2, 2019:
Re: Baron Cohen's Zionism. :-----: "There is one descriptor that is too infrequently applied to him: Zionist shill. Plenty of writers have noted Baron Cohen’s ardent Zionism, but few have suggested that his Zionism should cast him in a negative light (“Before ‘The Dictator’ and ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
@indirect76 I'm sorry the article by Salaita is too subtle for you. I think he supports his contention and others have seen it too. I feel it is equivalent to the many movies made where some generic Arab villain/country is the terrorist. It's part of a tapestry meant to shape perception. It is yet another facet of the hypocrisy that allows the US to cry crocodile tears about "foreign election interference" as these same people ignore the long and bloody history of the United States in this regard. Thanks for at least admitting none of your attention deals with the main subject. You'll forgive me if I choose to not spend much more time on this tangent. I've said what needs to be said on it. Your incredulity is not an argument. It's more like the guy from the movie Big saying, "I don't get it."
Just random thoughts. I haven't been on here much just because too much talk about religion in ...
WilliamCharles comments on May 3, 2019:
I am always gobsmacked by the need of religionists to have their various mythologies validated by acts of the government. It comes across as the height of insecurity. I became active in church/state separation because I was tired of them treating irrationalism as the default position.
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
As an aside, something that caught my attention after the San Diego (Poway) synagogue shooting was the rabbi of the congregation saying in a press conference the next day that taking prayer out of school was the problem and suggested that a moment of silence be reinstated. I found it sad that in the midst of such a tragedy, the appeal to such a meaningless and unconstitutional exercise might be considered thoughtful by some.
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altschmerz comments on May 2, 2019:
I saw “The Dictator” with a friend. He laughed throughout the whole movie and couldn’t stop talking about how great it was. I cringed through that movie the way I cringed through “Borat” at a couple of disgusting scenes (if he’d played Freddie Mercury in “Bohemian Rhapsody,” by the ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
Thank you for this comment. It encapsulates quite well the various issues involed being discussed. I am in full agreement. I would love to see his biting satire punch up, as it were, as often as he punches down. I consider his declining to put the incongruities of Zionism into his crosshairs telling. It reminds me a bit of the mindset of Jackie Mason, who though he can be incredibly funny, becomes seriously offensive in the way he characterizes Palestinians and Arabs while giving Israel a pass. Joan Rivers largely got a pass for saying Palestinians deserved to die when they were being systematically slaughtered by Israel. And make no mistake about it, "slaughtered" is exactly the right terminology when you use the latest, cutting edge, high tech weaponry to rain down death and destruction on a defenseless population with a higher density than Manhattan. And I'm someone who gives comics a great deal of leeway as to things said in jest, but these are examples of them actually speaking in support of horrible crimes. There's an enormous difference, in my opinion.
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TheMiddleWay comments on May 2, 2019:
It's not the facts go against FB. It's that conspiracy minded interpretation of facts, such as the one you present, go against FB. ;)
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
@TheMiddleWay Good thing you seek not to impress, because you don't. What you think is pointless, others do not. You seem to dismiss the contention by black users in USA Today, even if it is true, with your flippant, "post somewhere else." This is the world we're heading into where corporate decisions on speech trump all else. These same corporations who have been designated "people" by courts so they can use the vast sums of money available to them to shape the political landscape. It's what's being discussed here, with responses showing a variety of opinions. Yet, with more of your hand waving, you declare the whole thing "pointless." Is that your idea of a defensible "middle way?" If so, I consider you not much more than a "useful idiot." The kind of person that would be the type to say, "Well, they wouldn't tell us that on the news if it wasn't true."
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TheMiddleWay comments on May 2, 2019:
It's not the facts go against FB. It's that conspiracy minded interpretation of facts, such as the one you present, go against FB. ;)
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
@TheMiddleWay I've encountered your obtuseness before, and is quite in evidence here. You seem less savvy than one would expect for a one who has a graduate school level education according to your page. The gatekeeping done by Facebook is quite a big deal. The point is that is was not expected and had no justification. It is a platform that many use for activism. The sliding scale approach with no consistency and little opportunity for review is on par with "how many fingers, Winston?" Twitter execs recently said that they're unable to use their algorithms to block white supremacists because that would also block a good many Republicans. These are money msking platforms and their decision making is less about integrity and more about their continuing to mine data for profit. At some point, it is equivalent the phone company shutting down your phone, because you use swear words in your coversations. It cannot be that arbitrary that a political message that someone is in disagreement of must be silenced. You may disagree with my assessment, but my point is that it's ludicrous to consider it hate speech, and turns the notion of hate speech on its head. Zionism is a political ideology. To call out Zionists, even if they are Jewish, is not hate speech. I call out Joe Biden's Zionism as well.
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WilliamCharles comments on May 2, 2019:
Re: Baron Cohen's Zionism. :-----: "There is one descriptor that is too infrequently applied to him: Zionist shill. Plenty of writers have noted Baron Cohen’s ardent Zionism, but few have suggested that his Zionism should cast him in a negative light (“Before ‘The Dictator’ and ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 3, 2019:
@indirect76 Like I said, his show where he pretends to be an ex-Mossad agent for laughs (the one that the original FB comment dealt with), while supporting the criminal entity known as Israel that his character is an ardent supporter of, is in effect "shilling" as it serves to pretend that less cartoonish Zionist apartheid is somehow more palatable. Linking the article by Prof. Salaita here was to show that thst position is not without those in agreement. The community standard that got the comment flagged was "hate speech." I reject that characterization.You can easily make an argument that support of an apartheid enemy that steals land and murders the inhabitants in the process is hate speech. Or would you like also to like to explain how how they somehow have a strong case for theft and murder? Or maybe you are so obtuse that you deny theft and murder are taking place?
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WilliamCharles comments on May 2, 2019:
Re: Baron Cohen's Zionism. :-----: "There is one descriptor that is too infrequently applied to him: Zionist shill. Plenty of writers have noted Baron Cohen’s ardent Zionism, but few have suggested that his Zionism should cast him in a negative light (“Before ‘The Dictator’ and ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 2, 2019:
@Bierbasstard Well, to be fair, I only used the phrase "apartheid Chosanistan" (my terminology for the apartheid entity commonly known as "Israel." It's possible Facebook has deemed it unacceptable after the fact as I have been using the term regularly without objection. It denotes a nation who contend that their God gave them the land by way of their special relationship with "Him"). To label the IDF as ones who torture and murder is supported by the record.
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WilliamCharles comments on May 2, 2019:
Re: Baron Cohen's Zionism. :-----: "There is one descriptor that is too infrequently applied to him: Zionist shill. Plenty of writers have noted Baron Cohen’s ardent Zionism, but few have suggested that his Zionism should cast him in a negative light (“Before ‘The Dictator’ and ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 2, 2019:
@indirect76 That Baron Cohen supports Zionism, and is willing to demean others in ways that would be unacceptable if done to his group. Basically, he punches down. He even picked a real country to be the butt of his jokes and did so using Romainians.
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TheMiddleWay comments on May 2, 2019:
It's not the facts go against FB. It's that conspiracy minded interpretation of facts, such as the one you present, go against FB. ;)
WilliamCharles replies on May 2, 2019:
@TheMiddleWay Just to provide a little evidence for what I already knew, have seen with my own eyes, and had other politically active friends confirm. Your never having gone that route is all well and good, but not everyone shares your approach. :-----: "Numerous Black people told USA Today that when they write “white people” in their Facebook message, it gets flagged, leading to an account suspension. In 2017, Mary Canty Merrill had her post removed and account suspended after she wrote about racism, beginning the post with “Dear white people.” As an experiment, she had her white friends conduct a test run with the same text on their pages and had others “report” those posts. Most of their content was allowed to remain, and none had their accounts suspended. Another common occurrence Black users and activists reported was having their accounts suspended after sharing screenshots and videos of racist incidents, which defeats the entire purpose of their posts: bringing awareness to everyday racism." https://www.dailydot.com/irl/facebook-suspends-black-people/?fbclid=IwAR1ceQPxlonfbNWUI0hSjXFATp3475XdEEK4tmhNKNPdUyPmsnWYbhU2hDc
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callmedubious comments on May 2, 2019:
watched 2 or 3 of his episodes & got the impression that everything was pretty well staged. a prominent jewish canadian writer, Mordecia Richler, wrote a scathing article about the mistreatment of the palestinians after a visit there & was promptly condemned by the montreal jewish community.
WilliamCharles replies on May 2, 2019:
Sadly, it's quite often safer to remain silent, or even worse, go along with the group consensus for whatever perceived benefits.
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TheMiddleWay comments on May 2, 2019:
It's not the facts go against FB. It's that conspiracy minded interpretation of facts, such as the one you present, go against FB. ;)
WilliamCharles replies on May 2, 2019:
@TheMiddleWay Don't injure your arm patting yourself on the back. I've seen the points you think you've made. Not impressed. I have an issue with Facebook's sliding scale standards. It often relies on whether or not someone complains. Quite often that alone is enough to sanction someone for expressing their views. Israel actually hires student to defend them online. It also has an app (Megaphone) to rally the "faithful." One of the reasons the accusation of anti-Semitism is used so frequently, is that there seems to be no downside for smearing someone falsely.
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TheMiddleWay comments on May 2, 2019:
It's not the facts go against FB. It's that conspiracy minded interpretation of facts, such as the one you present, go against FB. ;)
WilliamCharles replies on May 2, 2019:
@TheMiddleWay I'm sure you're quite proud of your tepidness. Those of us that regularly address points made in defense of Palestine and point out the crimes of Zionism are quite used to it. I've seen websites scrub reasoned critiques of Zionist actions while leaving up hate-filled rants worthy of Stormfront. One is a threat their narrative, while the other reinforces it.
Just wondering here. Has the Christian public presence grown since 9-11 or has it always been as ...
WilliamCharles comments on May 2, 2019:
I feel they (most the evangelical strains at least) have long been about wielding power and cozying up to those they see as either doing their bidding or aligned with them on their pet issues. 9/11 allowed the nation and government to get their hate on in a more openly bombastic manner as well as ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 2, 2019:
@MissKathleen There's also a component of the perception that the poor brought their plight onto themselves. The notion of the prosperity Gospel and that a comfortable life is a sign of favored from God.
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TheMiddleWay comments on May 2, 2019:
It's not the facts go against FB. It's that conspiracy minded interpretation of facts, such as the one you present, go against FB. ;)
WilliamCharles replies on May 2, 2019:
Facebook has quite a history in acting as a gatekeeper and silencing voices calling for justice for Palestinians. To state that a man who regularly has no problem ridiculing other cultures while supporting an apartheid entity is "shilling" for them by ignoring their crimes is in the example given (Cheney and waterboarding). He could have brought a reproduction of an IDF sniper rifle of the type used to maim and murder peaceful Palestian protesters and it would have been autographed just as enthusiastically. We and our allies both fund and sell them to Israel. Maybe these points are just too subtle for you, eh TMW? Kind of like Trump stating "good people on both sides" when talking about white supremacists.
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WilliamCharles comments on May 2, 2019:
Re: Baron Cohen's Zionism. :-----: "There is one descriptor that is too infrequently applied to him: Zionist shill. Plenty of writers have noted Baron Cohen’s ardent Zionism, but few have suggested that his Zionism should cast him in a negative light (“Before ‘The Dictator’ and ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 2, 2019:
@indirect76 So, resistance against an invader is somehow suspect in your book? The conclusion doesn't come from the movies, those reinforce the premise.
Just wondering here. Has the Christian public presence grown since 9-11 or has it always been as ...
motrubl4u comments on May 2, 2019:
They're slowly dying and when a movement of any kind begins slowly dying it's members get louder and angrier.
WilliamCharles replies on May 2, 2019:
They used to be a lot of the "tyranny of the majority" the Constitution was designed to protect us from, and though still quite powerful and influential, they now claim to be an oppressed minority. [Notice of generalizations so I don't have to qualify every element]
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Mooolah comments on May 2, 2019:
You go Sasha!
WilliamCharles replies on May 2, 2019:
I think the man can be quite funny and is an exceptional comedic actor. However, what I was discussing (or trying to before the block) is that his satiracal barbs rarely, if ever, get directed at Zionism. While it is true that his ex-Mossad character is an over-the-top parody of a ideological fanatic, I feel it also serves to provide cover for liberal Zionism, which is equally repugnant. To me, it's like the PEPs (Progressive Except for Palestine) who decry Bibi Netanyahu's ruthlessness, while ignoring an entire system that would be just as deplorable with a more warm and fuzzy figurehead.
Yes, Hillary Did Steal the Democratic Primary in 2016 | Soapboxie
LiterateHiker comments on May 1, 2019:
Stop whining. Bernie supporters helped elect Trump by: 1. Refusing to vote in the 2016 presidential election. 2. Throwing away their votes by voting for the Green Party. Bernie Sanders has emerged as the Donald Trump of the left. ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 1, 2019:
@BookDeath As far as I'm concerned, an incrementalist will be like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Re: Biden, particularly if more DNC cheating takes place in this primary. Could the plan be corporate stooge Democrat beats the much reviled Trump, having most people breathing a sigh of relief for that relatively minor shift of fortunes? Any primary rigging to shut out popular progressives will be ignored, the newly elected "centrist" will do little to rock the boat overall, particularly since the court is already stacked and they can claim their hands are tied, and the same GOP fucks rubber stamping the Trump agenda (along with Dem quislings) can go back to hating Dems as usual but without the Trump albatross to defend. This would be a truly bipartisan effort the quash the progressive "menace." The narrative seems to fit so far.
Yes, Hillary Did Steal the Democratic Primary in 2016 | Soapboxie
LiterateHiker comments on May 1, 2019:
Stop whining. Bernie supporters helped elect Trump by: 1. Refusing to vote in the 2016 presidential election. 2. Throwing away their votes by voting for the Green Party. Bernie Sanders has emerged as the Donald Trump of the left. ...
WilliamCharles replies on May 1, 2019:
@BookDeath I'll support anyone with a genuinely progressive agenda, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, age, etc. I don't want to vote for corporatists, centrists, warmongers, supporters of Israeli apartheid, the bogus Russiagate narrative, or those unwilling to take direct action against the extreme environmental degradation taking place, to name a few of the major issues. Even the candidates I view quite favorably are at odds with some of the items on the list, but I am not holding out for a "purity pony." But seriously... fuck those incrementalists seeking to be merely a "little better" than Trump, as a stalling action to the reforms that are desperately needed. They cheat again, they're a greater enemy than the GOP, as they seek to destroy from within. Ask yourself, if Trump is such a monster (and he is), why would the leadership not embrace a platform that would draw in the portion of the base dissatified with their bullshit? That part of the base that will not vote for another shitty Establishment Dem offering. It's because they've made it clear they'd rather lose with an Establishment Dem than win with a progressive. We're supposed to be the ones that weigh the facts objectively. To not see this is truly an unfortunate blind spot.
Yes, Hillary Did Steal the Democratic Primary in 2016 | Soapboxie
tzimzai comments on May 1, 2019:
I'm pretty sure super delegates had more of a role than any dirty tricks or cheating. It will be interesting this time around to see if the establishment candidate has a harder time with the new rules.
WilliamCharles replies on May 1, 2019:
Part of what comes into play is momentum. Hers was declining as Bernie's was ascending. It was announced the day before the CA primary that Hillary had locked up the nomination, based partly by including superdelegates who hadn't even cast their vote. I consider the theft equivalent to theives using a wide array of methods: embezzlement, stealing from the till, the loading dock, petty cash, fake checks, fake employee wages, armed robbery, dereliction of work duties, etc., etc., etc. It all adds up.
Thank you to everyone who supported me during my suspension. It seems admn is going through posts ...
WilliamCharles comments on Apr 30, 2019:
Some good ones collected here. I lay claim to the Mango Manchild. Also Mayor Tiny Hands as I find it infuriating to think of him as competent for any level beyond that. http://www.thehypertexts.com/Donald%20Trump%20Nicknames.htm
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 30, 2019:
@motrubl4u Perfect. Stealing. Similar ones are: the Cheeto Benito, Cheetolini, Twitler, Boss Tweet...
"What could possibly go wrong?" Timmy Turner
chilehead9 comments on Apr 30, 2019:
Why waste time badmouthing Dem candidates at all? There's no sense in doing the Repub's job for them. Spend your time talking about what needs to be done, and what candidate is closest to addressing that. Let's be known for being constructive and not destructive.
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 30, 2019:
I consider it preventative medicine. Biden is Hillary 3.0.
"Never forget that you are one of a kind. Never forget that if there weren't any need for you in all...
WilliamCharles comments on Apr 27, 2019:
I was once on a panel discussion at my university put on by the Harvard Veritas Forum. I was the atheist panelist along with representatives of the three major religions (as they're referred to). The question being discussed was, "Does life have a purpose." I answered that the "purpose" of life ...
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@henthabox Kids can br pretty awesome, at least until adults mess with their heads.
"Never forget that you are one of a kind. Never forget that if there weren't any need for you in all...
WilliamCharles comments on Apr 27, 2019:
I was once on a panel discussion at my university put on by the Harvard Veritas Forum. I was the atheist panelist along with representatives of the three major religions (as they're referred to). The question being discussed was, "Does life have a purpose." I answered that the "purpose" of life ...
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 28, 2019:
@henthabox We have some pluses.
Matt Taibbi on Russiagate: Press Will Learn Nothing From This Fiasco – Rolling Stone
MikeFlora comments on Apr 28, 2019:
Why are all them people either in jail or on their way? Trump is the most corrupt president ever.
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 28, 2019:
Obstruction and lying to the FBI, but the whole "Russia stealing the election" was bollocks.
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WilliamCharles comments on Apr 27, 2019:
That brings up an interesting thought. Regarding things considered supernatural or paranormal, I like to point out that it only needs to be true once to be true. For instance, if aliens have actually visited this planet, it doesn't matter if all the other sightings are false. I consider myself a ...
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 28, 2019:
@TCorCM It was pretty trippy to say the least. There's certainly all sorts of possibilities as far as things we don't understand. Radio waves would seem like magic at one time.
Sanders/Gabbard 2020
WilliamCharles comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Tulsi would make a great VP (or POTUS even) as well as an excellent choice for Secretary of State.
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@mcgeo52 Well, not wanting to kill them in stupid wars would certainly be a change of pace regardless.
We're on a road to destruction if we don't make changes. Some thoughts on outrage and an idea to ...
WilliamCharles comments on Apr 27, 2019:
I like it. Run it up the flagpole and see who'll salute.
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@Admin Positively pagan!
Does anyone else who's de-converted from religion struggle with logically knowing / accepting ...
WilliamCharles comments on Apr 26, 2019:
My official agnostic anthem. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nlaoR5m4L80
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@josh_is_exciting Not surprised. Thx.
"Never forget that you are one of a kind. Never forget that if there weren't any need for you in all...
AnonySchmoose comments on Apr 27, 2019:
I deleted one duplicate comment, but your reply to the comment disappeared too, and I didn't intend for that to happen,
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 27, 2019:
No worries. I'll redraft in a bit. I've had similar things happen to me.
Read, read, read.
AnonySchmoose comments on Apr 27, 2019:
The window might be uncool. Someone could pilfer it, and attribute the drivel to me. From the car window at night on a lonely road would be littering. Hell, burn it !
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 27, 2019:
"The arts are not a way to make a living. They are a very human way of making life more bearable. Practicing an art, no matter how well or badly, is a way to make your soul grow, for heaven's sake. Sing in the shower. Dance to the radio. Tell stories. Write a poem to a friend, even a lousy poem. Do it as well as you possible can. You will get an enormous reward. You will have created something." ~ Kurt Vonnegut
Does anyone else who's de-converted from religion struggle with logically knowing / accepting ...
WilliamCharles comments on Apr 26, 2019:
My official agnostic anthem. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nlaoR5m4L80
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 27, 2019:
And I consider this as embodying humanist values with the God element being essentially metaphorical. It's beautiful regardless. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PlbxEE1Hvrg&t=9s
Does anyone else who's de-converted from religion struggle with logically knowing / accepting ...
WilliamCharles comments on Apr 26, 2019:
My official agnostic anthem. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nlaoR5m4L80
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@josh_is_exciting I lay claim to any song not mentioning God outright (and even a few that do lol). I consider this a wonderful example of humanism. The faces captured in the photos here melt my heart. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ej1I-IrHWCc
Biden boosters telling me another "hold your nose" candidate is the path to victory.
WilliamCharles comments on Apr 26, 2019:
@genessa seems to have taken her bat and ball and gone home. So much for rational discourse.
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@Duchess I'm sincere when I offer to agree to disagree, but she insists that not being won over by her argument means I'm being unduly stubborn. If she felt her position was strong, she should leave it up. That's how I see it, at least.
Does anyone else who's de-converted from religion struggle with logically knowing / accepting ...
WilliamCharles comments on Apr 26, 2019:
My official agnostic anthem. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nlaoR5m4L80
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@josh_is_exciting I agree. I'm just proudly defiant when someone tries to throw shade at "mah peeps." 😄
Does anyone else who's de-converted from religion struggle with logically knowing / accepting ...
WilliamCharles comments on Apr 26, 2019:
My official agnostic anthem. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nlaoR5m4L80
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@Deiter The god-botherers tell me, "it'll be too late then!" That I had my chance and blew it. I respond, "I can't pretend to believe what I don't. Your God would know."
Does anyone else who's de-converted from religion struggle with logically knowing / accepting ...
WilliamCharles comments on Apr 26, 2019:
My official agnostic anthem. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nlaoR5m4L80
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@josh_is_exciting I remember that. He's wrong, but it's a nice try.
MoA - Russiagate Is Really Finished
powder comments on Apr 26, 2019:
People don't understand how utterly dangerous this is. Let's take the Skripal case. Trump had been accused of being in Putin's pocket for months so when the CIA advised of options to punish Russia (still no evidence) he wanted to look tough so chose the most extreme choice; expelling diplomats. As...
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 27, 2019:
And the Skirpal case was every bit as much a false flag as the smears against Assad.
Soulful Strut/Young-Holt Unlimited [m.youtube.com]
Lilac-JadeCanada comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Ah yeah, good stuff!
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 27, 2019:
And I had forgotten there's a vocal version of this that's pretty slick. Hope it's OK here as a comment reply. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZigcWZMxjeY
The Mueller Report Indicts the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory | The Nation
t1nick comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Another denier of the obvious. Do not even need the report to see the unethical and immoral behavior. what does this say about the morals and ethics of those that still support him.
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@t1nick you make my point then. The collusion is not established, though there were months and months of claiming just that. The obstruction is there. As far as you having the freedom to pick and choose which women politicians you like/dislike and not be tagged a woman hater... it must be nice. I have blowhards stating I have a problem with strong women. Once they're called on that, they backpedal.
The Mueller Report Indicts the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory | The Nation
t1nick comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Another denier of the obvious. Do not even need the report to see the unethical and immoral behavior. what does this say about the morals and ethics of those that still support him.
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@t1nick Strong women are great. Tulsi comes to mind. Corrupt people I have a problem with, whatever gender. Hillary was lacking in integrity. That is my private *and* public position.
The Mueller Report Indicts the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory | The Nation
t1nick comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Another denier of the obvious. Do not even need the report to see the unethical and immoral behavior. what does this say about the morals and ethics of those that still support him.
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@t1nick the fact that you somehow think "my side" is propping up Trump shows you're either a willfully ignorant or purposely deceptive. You even fail to see the irony of pushing the same discredited bullshit over and over again. Saying Trump us corrupt as fuck is in no way propping him up (except maybe to the clueless). Are you stoned or just stupid? Go after him for the criminal things he's done, not the bullshit propping up Team Hillary's bogus face-saving attempt narrative of how she'd be president today if it weren't for those gosh darned Russians.
The Mueller Report Indicts the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory | The Nation
bobwjr comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Guilty everyone knows that
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
Of a lot of things to be sure, but the claim that Hillary lost because of Russia is just so much smoke and mirrors.
The Mueller Report Indicts the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory | The Nation
Novelty comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Seriously the report exonerates Trump of nothing at all. We don’t even need that report, we have media coverage and if you remove all commentary except Trumps own words and actions we have enough evidence of obstruction alone to put him away for a damned long time. So if he’s not covering his ...
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@Novelty yes. How could I be against war criminals punishing someone for revealing their war crimes? Your grasp of logic is frightening. But just as disturbing, it is also quite common. You have a toxic mix of ignorance and arrogance as far as I can see. You wear it well, though. More power to you.
The Mueller Report Indicts the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory | The Nation
gearl comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Because there is not enough evidence for Muller to bring criminal charges that would stick does in no way prove the opposite. There was intent on Don Jr’s. part but he was pretty much ruled too stupid to be indicted. Muller could not reliably determine Manafort’s purpose in sharing which would ...
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@Novelty if I give you the courtesy of a response, how about the courtesy of a reaction, eh? I'm working towards the t-shirt. Thanks in advance.
The Mueller Report Indicts the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory | The Nation
Novelty comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Seriously the report exonerates Trump of nothing at all. We don’t even need that report, we have media coverage and if you remove all commentary except Trumps own words and actions we have enough evidence of obstruction alone to put him away for a damned long time. So if he’s not covering his ...
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@Novelty We have American presidents and their henchpeople (fascism is now co-ed) who are walking free. Putin is no saint, but I'll gladly give him props when deserved. He's also been the target of smears similar to those against Assad like the phony claims of gas attacks against his own people. Yet US spokesholes still spout such nonsense with a straight face. Cui bono? Your snide digs don't phase me. You've got nothing, so they're not totally unexpected. Keep tilting at windmills all you want. Have a nice life.
The Mueller Report Indicts the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory | The Nation
t1nick comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Another denier of the obvious. Do not even need the report to see the unethical and immoral behavior. what does this say about the morals and ethics of those that still support him.
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@t1nick spoken like a true gaslighter. To paraphrase Joseph Goebbels - "Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty." https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/37824/did-joseph-goebbels-say-accuse-the-other-side-of-that-which-you-are-guilty/37829
The Mueller Report Indicts the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory | The Nation
gearl comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Because there is not enough evidence for Muller to bring criminal charges that would stick does in no way prove the opposite. There was intent on Don Jr’s. part but he was pretty much ruled too stupid to be indicted. Muller could not reliably determine Manafort’s purpose in sharing which would ...
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@Novelty Our "buddies" in the KofSA just did some seriously fucked up shit, but crickets on that. You pick the battles important to you, umkay? I've no need to sign on to your particular agenda.
The Mueller Report Indicts the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory | The Nation
t1nick comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Another denier of the obvious. Do not even need the report to see the unethical and immoral behavior. what does this say about the morals and ethics of those that still support him.
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@t1nick Gaslight on, Hoss.
The Mueller Report Indicts the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory | The Nation
Novelty comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Seriously the report exonerates Trump of nothing at all. We don’t even need that report, we have media coverage and if you remove all commentary except Trumps own words and actions we have enough evidence of obstruction alone to put him away for a damned long time. So if he’s not covering his ...
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@Novelty "I am for truth, no matter who tells it. I am for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I am a human being first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” ~ Malcolm X
The Mueller Report Indicts the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory | The Nation
t1nick comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Another denier of the obvious. Do not even need the report to see the unethical and immoral behavior. what does this say about the morals and ethics of those that still support him.
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
No support for Cheetolini here. That came from Team Hillary. She played chicken with the fate of the nation in her pursuit of power... and lost. Trump is the giant shit sandwich we're all having to take a bit of because of that gamble. Bust him for the undeniable criminal shit he's done, but the phony Russiagate narrative only gives his rabid supporters a cause to scream "fake news!" despite the rest of Dolt 45's numerous lies.
The Mueller Report Indicts the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory | The Nation
Novelty comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Seriously the report exonerates Trump of nothing at all. We don’t even need that report, we have media coverage and if you remove all commentary except Trumps own words and actions we have enough evidence of obstruction alone to put him away for a damned long time. So if he’s not covering his ...
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
Obstruction is a crime. Pursue that. Russiagate was largely a concoction of Team Hillary. Beating that dead horse will potentially reap consequences as dire as the push by the Clinton campaign to puff Trump in the first place.
The Mueller Report Indicts the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory | The Nation
gearl comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Because there is not enough evidence for Muller to bring criminal charges that would stick does in no way prove the opposite. There was intent on Don Jr’s. part but he was pretty much ruled too stupid to be indicted. Muller could not reliably determine Manafort’s purpose in sharing which would ...
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@Novelty Putin is actually doing some heroic things. Supporting Syria in the face of American instigated terrorism is one. Not letting Venezuala be bullied by US warmongers is another. Could give a fuck otherwise what comes out of the Mango Manchild's piehole.
The Mueller Report Indicts the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory | The Nation
gearl comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Because there is not enough evidence for Muller to bring criminal charges that would stick does in no way prove the opposite. There was intent on Don Jr’s. part but he was pretty much ruled too stupid to be indicted. Muller could not reliably determine Manafort’s purpose in sharing which would ...
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
Trump has acted in ways many times not in the interests of Russia, but he's still portrayed as Putin's puppet. Trump being a corrupt sleazeball does not automatically confirm the Russiagate narrative. As far as threats to our democracy, I would rank the 2016 Democratic primary shenanigans and GOP voter suppression much higher than Russisn troll farm memes. And virtually nothing has been done about either of those things.
Why we can't have good things
freedom41 comments on Apr 26, 2019:
The system is broken by no stretch of the imagination.
WilliamCharles replies on Apr 26, 2019:
Or as some have observed, the system works exactly as designed.

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