This is what is going down. :( [m.youtube.com]

barjoe comments on Aug 12, 2020:

Jimmy Dore is an ass. He's posting stuff from when he was still in grade schools. If he was a virgin of violent crime he'd be arranging for the police. Some of these people are animals. We can't close all the jails. Max Blumenthal is an unbelievable piece of shit.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@barjoe - Putin defends Venezuela. That's on the right side of history. We want to demonize their government to steal their oil.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

linxminx comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Great choice! She will make a good president someday as well.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@linxminx “There’s a terrible danger in voting for the lesser of two evils because the parties can set it up that way.” ~ Hunter S. Thompson

This is what is going down. :( [m.youtube.com]

barjoe comments on Aug 12, 2020:

Jimmy Dore is an ass. He's posting stuff from when he was still in grade schools. If he was a virgin of violent crime he'd be arranging for the police. Some of these people are animals. We can't close all the jails. Max Blumenthal is an unbelievable piece of shit.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@barjoe - Chris Hedges and Lee Camp are on RT. That's a mighty fine lineup.

This is what is going down. :( [m.youtube.com]

AnneWimsey comments on Aug 12, 2020:

She was a public prosecutor, charged with supporting law & order. Duuuuhhh........

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@RoboGraham - no kidding. An uncomfortable amount of projection there. 😳

Goodbye message from OwlInaSack: Admin has suspended my account (I’m not sure why) – but ...

WilliamCharles comments on Aug 12, 2020:

I list such things across social media on my FB page, Village of the Banned. I'll add this as the latest casualty

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/350629635582019?view=permalink&id=630039504307696

This is what is going down. :( [m.youtube.com]

AnneWimsey comments on Aug 12, 2020:

She was a public prosecutor, charged with supporting law & order. Duuuuhhh........

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

You again? She let white collar criminals walk, jailed pot offenders as she joked about smoking spleef herself. Yeah, just doing her job. ::rolls eyes::

Leave us remember what with all the hagiography of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden re: supposed street ...

Fred_Snerd comments on Aug 12, 2020:

"That’s what sets this nation apart, is that everyone, everyone, the ability for everyone, and we mean everyone, to go as far and dream as big as hard work and their God-given ability will take them." - Joe Biden a few minutes ago

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

Pandering platitudes for all! [with manic Oprah energy] "You get a platitude, and YOU get a platitude!... "

This is what is going down. :( [m.youtube.com]

barjoe comments on Aug 12, 2020:

Jimmy Dore is an ass. He's posting stuff from when he was still in grade schools. If he was a virgin of violent crime he'd be arranging for the police. Some of these people are animals. We can't close all the jails. Max Blumenthal is an unbelievable piece of shit.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@barjoe - what a convenient catchphrase to avoid the issue. "Vote for our corrupt crooks cuz they're less crooky."

This is what is going down. :( [m.youtube.com]

barjoe comments on Aug 12, 2020:

Jimmy Dore is an ass. He's posting stuff from when he was still in grade schools. If he was a virgin of violent crime he'd be arranging for the police. Some of these people are animals. We can't close all the jails. Max Blumenthal is an unbelievable piece of shit.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

Yet the white collar criminal predatory animals run free (with the help of their rapacious politician pals). Criminal banks have stolen more from Americans than all the armed bank robbers in history. Funny that, innit?

The DNC didn't get that in the primaries. :(

barjoe comments on Aug 12, 2020:

He doesn't care if you're a better golfer than he is. He cheats.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

Twain paraphrased or apocryphal - "Golf is a good walk spoiled."

And shoot a few so the message sinks in. :(

barjoe comments on Aug 12, 2020:

We can't waste any of the stimulus on the working class. They'll just get lazy and have "no incentive" to return to work got to open up the economy before the election.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

And their paying their bills wouldn't circulate through the economy as efficiently as just giving the stimulus money to the captains of industry directly. /s

This is what is going down. :( [m.youtube.com]

Fred_Snerd comments on Aug 12, 2020:

Nixon is STILL going after dissidents.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

So very true.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

WilliamCharles comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Q: Did you hear what Joe said to Kamala to let her know she was going to be on the ticket? A: "Gee, your hair smells nice!"

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@Cutiebeauty - Trump's horridness does not turn that of Biden into a virtue. Can't stomach the hagiography.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

Storm1752 comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Not only is she beautiful, she's a hard-nosed prosecutor who will tell it like it is. If I was Pence, I'd be scared. Earth to trolls: dispense with the sexist remarks...she's for real

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@Storm1752 - this one is truly a rictus.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

WilliamCharles comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Q: Did you hear what Joe said to Kamala to let her know she was going to be on the ticket? A: "Gee, your hair smells nice!"

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@Cutiebeauty - Biden has multiple (8?) accusations of sexual misconduct, Tara Reade being one. There's no level of acceptable harassment.

[rawstory.] KAMALA HARRIS is Joe Biden's pick for his Vice President.

M12bfree comments on Aug 12, 2020:

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1293289192206688256?s=19 It's a good reminder of who Kamala is and what she's done. I'm not endorsing Tulsi here, just that she spoke the truth. That took guts.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kzuA3fjTUg0

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

linxminx comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Great choice! She will make a good president someday as well.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@linxminx https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kzuA3fjTUg0

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

linxminx comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Great choice! She will make a good president someday as well.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@linxminx drat lost it. Short repost is our POS Secretary of the Treasury is because she didn't prosecute Mnuchin and criminal bankers as CA AG, her warmongering, obsequiousness towards Chosanistan, her arguing to use low grade prisoners as chattell labor beyond their available terms, etc. Will link a great vid on this. Harris was downright giddy about sticking it to the poors. And the Tulsi Gabbard takedown was epic.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

Storm1752 comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Not only is she beautiful, she's a hard-nosed prosecutor who will tell it like it is. If I was Pence, I'd be scared. Earth to trolls: dispense with the sexist remarks...she's for real

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@Storm1752 - yeah, he's a peach.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

WilliamCharles comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Q: Did you hear what Joe said to Kamala to let her know she was going to be on the ticket? A: "Gee, your hair smells nice!"

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@Cutiebeauty - I've read people saying it wouldn't matter if his sexual assault accusations are true, the ultimate being a journo that satirically said it wouldn't be a deal breaker if he boiled and ate babies. Where's your cutoff point? Seriously?

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

Storm1752 comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Not only is she beautiful, she's a hard-nosed prosecutor who will tell it like it is. If I was Pence, I'd be scared. Earth to trolls: dispense with the sexist remarks...she's for real

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@Storm1752 - I would never vote Hillary cuz she had cankles. /s

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

Storm1752 comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Not only is she beautiful, she's a hard-nosed prosecutor who will tell it like it is. If I was Pence, I'd be scared. Earth to trolls: dispense with the sexist remarks...she's for real

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

Kinda sexist that you think her attractiveness has any bearing on her qualifications, no?

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

linxminx comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Great choice! She will make a good president someday as well.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

She is eminently competent and qualified, but I have problems with a lot of her politics and policy positions... and I voted for her as my Senator.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

Dougl35534 comments on Aug 11, 2020:

So does that mean that there won't be any debates? Mikey can't be in the same room with a woman other then his wife unless his wife is by his side. I don't think they'll let Mother on the stage.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

My neighbor just said Pence will clean her clock in the debates when I told him Biden's VP pick. Bless his heart. He's an exceptionally wonderful man otherwise, but a conservative Christian.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

Mofo1953 comments on Aug 11, 2020:

The name calling started already, trolls even here, nobody is more a sellout than the orange turd, aside from being a corrupt con man, a traitor, a racist and a xenophobe. So I will gladly vote for Biden and Harris, with zero hesitation because another 4 years of the orange turd will destroy our ...

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@Mofo1953 https://www.richardcyoung.com/politics/election-2020/dnc-unquestionably-rigged-super-tuesday-to-stop-bernie/

[rawstory.] KAMALA HARRIS is Joe Biden's pick for his Vice President.

TomMcGiverin comments on Aug 11, 2020:

So I guess they both made up later or Harris was just posturing or lying back in the debate months ago when she practically called Biden a racist to his face over his opposition to busing? Both her and Joe disgust me, everything with them is theater and false advertising. Biden said he would ...

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

"There was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools and she was bused to school every day. And then she sold out her own values in pursuit of power to run with an addled old corporate racist. That little girl was me," Kamala Harris said.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

Mofo1953 comments on Aug 11, 2020:

The name calling started already, trolls even here, nobody is more a sellout than the orange turd, aside from being a corrupt con man, a traitor, a racist and a xenophobe. So I will gladly vote for Biden and Harris, with zero hesitation because another 4 years of the orange turd will destroy our ...

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@Mofo1953 - that you seem to have your head firmly planted up your own tailpipe does not speak well for your powers of comprehension.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

WilliamCharles comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Q: Did you hear what Joe said to Kamala to let her know she was going to be on the ticket? A: "Gee, your hair smells nice!"

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@creative51 - that it needed to be pointed out as unacceptable in the first place was always a red flag for me. He excused it away saying things were "different" "back then." What a yutz.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

WilliamCharles comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Q: Did you hear what Joe said to Kamala to let her know she was going to be on the ticket? A: "Gee, your hair smells nice!"

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@Storm1752 - I'm not the one sniffing women's hair and groping children on camera. You're thinking of Creepy Addled Uncle Joe.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

Mofo1953 comments on Aug 11, 2020:

The name calling started already, trolls even here, nobody is more a sellout than the orange turd, aside from being a corrupt con man, a traitor, a racist and a xenophobe. So I will gladly vote for Biden and Harris, with zero hesitation because another 4 years of the orange turd will destroy our ...

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@Mofo1953 - and you have your blinders firmly in place. The DNC cheated on back to back primaries to install their corporate puppet. #FCKBDN

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

SCal comments on Aug 11, 2020:

A sell out, who is on record as selling out people of color to advance her career. A perfect, typical, authoritarian candidate.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@UrsiMajor - uh, gee. That's how elections work. The Hildebeast wasn't entitled to anyone's vote, she was supposed to work for them. Instead, she thought she could coast to the finish line on the way to her coronation.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

SCal comments on Aug 11, 2020:

A sell out, who is on record as selling out people of color to advance her career. A perfect, typical, authoritarian candidate.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@UrsiMajor - Madam Pantsuit didn't do shit for progressives. Hate Trump, but glad she lost. Trump was her handpicked pied piper. We have Dolt 45 precisely but she rolled the dice with the fate of the nation in her pursuit of power... and lost!!

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

FearlessFly comments on Aug 11, 2020:

. . just read the NYT article (and NPR). Will be interesting to see how the opposition shapes-up (imagining the worst from Trump). :O

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@twill - I choose not to hold women to a standard that men aren't held to... but yeah, boning Willie Brown was a calculated career move.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

Mofo1953 comments on Aug 11, 2020:

The name calling started already, trolls even here, nobody is more a sellout than the orange turd, aside from being a corrupt con man, a traitor, a racist and a xenophobe. So I will gladly vote for Biden and Harris, with zero hesitation because another 4 years of the orange turd will destroy our ...

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@UrsiMajor - I would enthusiastically vote for Biden with Nina Turner on the ticket. Harris? Meh.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

Mofo1953 comments on Aug 11, 2020:

The name calling started already, trolls even here, nobody is more a sellout than the orange turd, aside from being a corrupt con man, a traitor, a racist and a xenophobe. So I will gladly vote for Biden and Harris, with zero hesitation because another 4 years of the orange turd will destroy our ...

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@Mofo1953 - you must have see a different primary than I did. The Establishment Dem ratfvckers were out in force.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

SCal comments on Aug 11, 2020:

A sell out, who is on record as selling out people of color to advance her career. A perfect, typical, authoritarian candidate.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@Cutiebeauty "In the 2020 presidential race, the disproportionate imprisonment of African American men has become a major issue, and it’s posing an especially big challenge for Harris, California’s first black U.S. senator. She is counting on strong support from African Americans. But many black voters are wary of her 27 years as a prosecutor enforcing laws that sent African Americans to prison. Often left unsaid is that Harris, a former state attorney general and San Francisco district attorney, did not play a role in passing those laws. [Photo] Kamala Harris campaigns in Des Moines Kamala Harris campaigns in Des Moines. Many black voters are wary of her years spent enforcing laws that sent African Americans to prison.(Scott Olson / Getty Images) Still, her home state’s high rate of incarcerating people of color goes a long way in explaining the trouble she has had selling her candidacy to black voters nationwide. In California and many other states, racial disparities in imprisonment have intensified resentments of what many see as deeply ingrained discrimination in America’s criminal justice system." https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-10-24/kamala-harris-california-crime

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

Mofo1953 comments on Aug 11, 2020:

The name calling started already, trolls even here, nobody is more a sellout than the orange turd, aside from being a corrupt con man, a traitor, a racist and a xenophobe. So I will gladly vote for Biden and Harris, with zero hesitation because another 4 years of the orange turd will destroy our ...

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

It's crazy to run mediocre candidates merely because Trump is so awful. The DNC's boneheaded machinations are why we have Dolt 45 to begin with (pied piper). #FUDNC

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

WilliamCharles comments on Aug 11, 2020:

"There was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools and she was bused to school every day. And then she sold out her own values in pursuit of power to run with an addled old corporate racist. That little girl was me," Kamala Harris said.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@Cutiebeauty - one had to know the original to run the satirical version. Biden has tons of real quotes that reveal him as clueless. Harris is wonderfully well spoken and articulate, but votes in ways that gives me the creeps. She will do her puppetmasters' bidding. That has got to end.

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

SCal comments on Aug 11, 2020:

A sell out, who is on record as selling out people of color to advance her career. A perfect, typical, authoritarian candidate.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@SCal - statue VP?

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

twill comments on Aug 11, 2020:

The Dems REALLY want Trump re-elected.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

IKR? I love the idea of the first female VP (and subsequently the first female prez) being a woman of color. Just not this woman, though. I have very grave reservations about her and I voted for her as my senator. I'm glad Barack Obama broke the color barrier, I just wish he hadn't sold us out to Wall Street. I would have loved to have seen the glass ceiling broken by electing a woman president, but Hillary Clinton was really a shitty choice on too many levels that were important to me. Now we have piece of crap candidate Creepy Addled Uncle Joe, and a former CA AG that cut her law and order chops on jailing POC, but not prosecuting criminal bankers and that piece of shit Steve Mnuchin that is now our piece of shit Secretary of the Treasury. Hevkuva job, Kamala. [sigh]

Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as VP!!

SCal comments on Aug 11, 2020:

A sell out, who is on record as selling out people of color to advance her career. A perfect, typical, authoritarian candidate.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 11, 2020:

Biden gives the progressive base of the party another unmistakable FU. #FCKBDN

My goofy girls.

AnonySchmoose comments on Aug 6, 2020:

There are many chickens and roosters in my neighborhood. They visit my yard regularly to eat bugs and worms. They're afraid of humans with no food, thus no photos.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 6, 2020:

The goats, sheep, and donkey across the way make noise (their bleats just happen to sound as if they're being strangled oddly enough lol) whenever they see the "tall man" as I got permission from the neighbors to feed them my fruit and veggie scraps (carrot ends and pulp from my juicing, apple cores, etc.). The sheep is comically obnoxious when pushing to the head of the pack so I've nicknamed him Kevin. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yuwprXAaSv0

"Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." - H. L. Mencken

Allamanda comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Maybe New Zealand is the exception that proves the rule? and a couple of others, Iceland say?

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 5, 2020:

@Allamanda - more reasons for shame, no?

"Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." - H. L. Mencken

Allamanda comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Maybe New Zealand is the exception that proves the rule? and a couple of others, Iceland say?

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 5, 2020:

Depends on how far back one goes I suppose. Isn't NZ a colonial enterprise like Oz?

Sadly accurate I'm afraid.

t1nick comments on Aug 3, 2020:

Another inaccurate meme. He won't be the progressive end all be all that Bernie's people wanted. But he will be a gradual step backward from the abyss that trump brought us to. Lay the groundwork for 2024 with a slow, but steady reclaiming of the country and the democracy. We need to be more ...

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@t1nick - actually, he was Team DNC's Pied Piper. https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

barjoe comments on Aug 3, 2020:

They are afraid it will hurt Joe Biden's election bid. They are correct. It would. Go ahead get mad. I suppose you'd rather have Trump.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@barjoe - and BTW, barjoe, to be clear, the "Joe" I'm ranting about is Biden, not you, just in case that wasn't evident.

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

BitFlipper comments on Aug 3, 2020:

Don't these hate posts belong in the Bernie group?

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@barjoe - I respect JV and how he came to hold the positions he does. That's not the same as agreeing with him across the board. I have no idea why I'm supposed to care if JV likes me.

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

barjoe comments on Aug 3, 2020:

They are afraid it will hurt Joe Biden's election bid. They are correct. It would. Go ahead get mad. I suppose you'd rather have Trump.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@barjoe - your call. I can cope.

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

barjoe comments on Aug 3, 2020:

They are afraid it will hurt Joe Biden's election bid. They are correct. It would. Go ahead get mad. I suppose you'd rather have Trump.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@barjoe - hyperbolic generalization. Like when people say not voting for Biden is a vote for Trump. Or that not voting for Trump is still a vote for Trump if you don't vote Biden. Or that if enough people reject Biden as the "safe" choice, he is then the safe choice that only lost because people just didn't see how goddamn safe he was. You see the circular logic there? #FCKBDN

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

barjoe comments on Aug 3, 2020:

They are afraid it will hurt Joe Biden's election bid. They are correct. It would. Go ahead get mad. I suppose you'd rather have Trump.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@barjoe - btw... notice all the weasel words and qualifications. He wants to "convince" progressive detractors he's not their enemy... rather than stop being their enemy. If you say you'll veto M4A if it crosses your desk after the incredible hypothetical of actually passing both houses of Congress... that members of this august deliberative body worked together to bring this about... but you somehow know better... YOU ARE MY ENEMY!!! And again further on... he wants to "convince" them that's he intelligent (which he feels is a green light for him to do as he wants on the issues regardless of the desires and needs of his constituency)... rather than be expected to display a commendable intelligence. YOU ARE MY ENEMY! "I want to convince them I was honest." You know what fucks that up, Joe? When you keep lying about the times you were proven not to be honest. YOU ARE MY ENEMY. #FCKBDN

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

barjoe comments on Aug 3, 2020:

They are afraid it will hurt Joe Biden's election bid. They are correct. It would. Go ahead get mad. I suppose you'd rather have Trump.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@barjoe - yeah... I can see how quoting Biden to get a handle on Biden just makes me some Trump loving asshole. :-----: “When people show you who they are, believe them.” ~ Maya Angelou

Sadly accurate I'm afraid.

t1nick comments on Aug 3, 2020:

Another inaccurate meme. He won't be the progressive end all be all that Bernie's people wanted. But he will be a gradual step backward from the abyss that trump brought us to. Lay the groundwork for 2024 with a slow, but steady reclaiming of the country and the democracy. We need to be more ...

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@AnneWimsey - LMGTFY https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2019/3/27/18262482/joe-biden-anita-hill-2020-christine-blasey-ford-brett-kavanaugh

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

barjoe comments on Aug 3, 2020:

They are afraid it will hurt Joe Biden's election bid. They are correct. It would. Go ahead get mad. I suppose you'd rather have Trump.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@barjoe WHY I CAN'T STAND JOE BIDEN - #FCKBDN ~○~○~○~ Looking up some other background info, I came across this. It was written before Biden even announced. It is more complementary to Biden than I was expecting, and some of it justified. But I also find it telling, particularly in light of its closing summary (the part excerpted below), that there's zero mention of the times he's been caught lying, as well as his dropping out in '88 having been revealed to have plagiarized material in speeches. :-----: "Biden’s challenge is not merely to win the Democratic nomination, but also to convince his progressive detractors that he isn’t their political enemy, so they won’t abandon him in the general election. To pull that off, he will have to follow his own advice, which he laid out in a 1974 interview, not even two years into being a senator. In it, Biden summed up his political philosophy this way: “I don’t think the issues mean a great deal in terms of whether you win or lose. I think the issues are merely a vehicle to portray your intellectual capacity to the voters … a vehicle by which the voters will determine your honesty and candor. The central issue of my campaign—and I used all the issues from busing to the war to the economy, crime, and prison reform—was to convince the people that I was intelligent and to convince them that I was honest.”" https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/11/the-two-biden-problem-226649

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

barjoe comments on Aug 3, 2020:

They are afraid it will hurt Joe Biden's election bid. They are correct. It would. Go ahead get mad. I suppose you'd rather have Trump.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@barjoe - And no one needs permission to make their own choices, even if you have come to a new conclusion. If I ever think I'm the smartest person in the room that'll be proof right there that I'm not. And if you think that I haven't heard some version of your position before, then you don't have a lot of respect for how I came to my own conclusion. Anything that doesn't establish that first means we're talking past each other, and I have neither time nor patience to go that route. Biden's got your vote because [reasons]. Whoop-di-fucking-doo. And as you may have guessed, I'm taking a different approach.

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

WilliamCharles comments on Aug 3, 2020:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HSMGrKSUgj4

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@FearlessFly - well your opinion that my actions are in danger of favoring censorship somehow is something that I choose not to worry about. You do you.

Sadly accurate I'm afraid.

t1nick comments on Aug 3, 2020:

Another inaccurate meme. He won't be the progressive end all be all that Bernie's people wanted. But he will be a gradual step backward from the abyss that trump brought us to. Lay the groundwork for 2024 with a slow, but steady reclaiming of the country and the democracy. We need to be more ...

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@AnneWimsey - we have Clarence Thomas thanks to Joe Biden.

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

barjoe comments on Aug 3, 2020:

They are afraid it will hurt Joe Biden's election bid. They are correct. It would. Go ahead get mad. I suppose you'd rather have Trump.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@barjoe - a two party system might as well be that ring through a bull's nose. We actually have greater power than it appears for the most part, but we've been conditioned to think we don't. If our power lies in our own individual vote, but someone else wants you to factor in whatever triangulations they insist must determine how you ultimately cast it... ... well, they can just fuck right off with that shit.

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

WilliamCharles comments on Aug 3, 2020:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HSMGrKSUgj4

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@FearlessFly - the party in question has crapped all over topic threads involving me before, so I don't need to justify a personal block at any time to anyone. You worry about you, umkay?

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

BitFlipper comments on Aug 3, 2020:

Don't these hate posts belong in the Bernie group?

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 3, 2020:

Who am I hating btw?I may have misconstrued your comment.

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

BitFlipper comments on Aug 3, 2020:

Don't these hate posts belong in the Bernie group?

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 3, 2020:

Sounds like Biden's basement strategy. "If you don't call us out on our bullshit, the Rethuglicans won't either." Keep telling yourself that, Sparky. Safe choice my ass.

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

barjoe comments on Aug 3, 2020:

They are afraid it will hurt Joe Biden's election bid. They are correct. It would. Go ahead get mad. I suppose you'd rather have Trump.

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 3, 2020:

It ain't over till it's over. But if these tone-deaf fucks think they're entitled to our votes because "Orange Man bad!" they can fuck right off. Seriously. Pretending that acquiescing to whatever crumbs they throw our way is how the corporate party will be steered in a progressive direction is the height of sophistry. Lucy, Charlie Brown, and the football. Lather.Rinse.Repeat. Fluff Creepy Addled Uncle Joe all you want. Settle for Biden (real PAC btw). Blue no matter who! Hold your nose and vote for Joe! The DNC is doubling down on their mistakes of 2016. You think whistling past this graveyard will help drag his reanimated corpse over the goal line? Safe my ass. #StepDownJoe

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

AnneWimsey comments on Aug 3, 2020:

Last I heard (about 3-4 weeks ago) Bernie people worked closely with Biden people on the Dem Platform & were both very happy. I think this is the kind of post that drump supporters create!

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 3, 2020:

You think a lot of things.

Thank Glob this evil monster didn't get his way thanks to the selfless heroes known as Establishment...

WilliamCharles comments on Aug 3, 2020:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HSMGrKSUgj4

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 3, 2020:

@AnneWimsey - seriously, you're back? You always come in guns blazing. Why should I give you a pedestal to try to rattle my cage? Say whatever you want, but if you keep throwing in your bullshit editorializing, I'll block you.

Sadly accurate I'm afraid.

WilliamCharles comments on Aug 3, 2020:

**25 Reasons Not to Vote for Joe Biden** https://medium.com/age-of-awareness/25-reasons-joe-biden-shouldnt-be-president-6036a87feb6d

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 3, 2020:

@Varn - and you won't. Your point?

Sadly accurate I'm afraid.

Varn comments on Aug 3, 2020:

Too late to attack Biden ... unless you’re supporting trump. Heart-attack Bernie & crew scared away all but the least known, or the best known. The best known stepped up, his name is **Joe Biden.** I wish he were 25 years younger, but then he’d lack the tremendous experience that’s put him ...

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 3, 2020:

@Varn - we have Team Hillary to thank for Dolt 45 as their handpicked Pied Piper. Madam Pantsuit played chicken with the fate of the nation in her pursuit of power... and LOST! Remind me again how that vote shaming strategy worked out for her. That albatross needs to be hung around the necks of corporate Dems and the DNC in perpetuity. #FCKBDN

Sadly accurate I'm afraid.

t1nick comments on Aug 3, 2020:

Another inaccurate meme. He won't be the progressive end all be all that Bernie's people wanted. But he will be a gradual step backward from the abyss that trump brought us to. Lay the groundwork for 2024 with a slow, but steady reclaiming of the country and the democracy. We need to be more ...

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 3, 2020:

@t1nick - he was telling Wall Street that a Biden administration wasn't going to cramp their style, and that they would be able to continue with their predatory and rapacious banking practices. #FCKBDN

Sadly accurate I'm afraid.

t1nick comments on Aug 3, 2020:

Another inaccurate meme. He won't be the progressive end all be all that Bernie's people wanted. But he will be a gradual step backward from the abyss that trump brought us to. Lay the groundwork for 2024 with a slow, but steady reclaiming of the country and the democracy. We need to be more ...

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 3, 2020:

Inaccurate? It's Creepy Uncle Joe's own quote. The orange Trump face is spot on too.

In 7 days, Biden's average poll numbers have slipped over 2 points (that's the average of ALL ...

WilliamCharles comments on Aug 3, 2020:

Heckuva job, DNC. #StepDownJoe

WilliamCharles replies on Aug 3, 2020:

[sigh]

Utopias rest on the fallacy that perfection is a legitimate goal of human existence - Lewis Mumford...

Allamanda comments on Jul 30, 2020:

does it though? Utopias are held to 'approach' or aim at perfection in various ways, and if that means the happiness and well-being of all, why would we quibble? What we have now is certainly untenable.

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 31, 2020:

Indeed.

Not all heroes wear capes.

snytiger6 comments on Jul 20, 2020:

In the state of Oregon, if you are protesting, it is perfectly legal to be naked.

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 31, 2020:

@Grecio - I'm often amazed women find us attractive ar all (but thankful lol).

Why It Matters That Seth Rogen Spoke Out Against Israel BY HADAS THIER Seth Rogen grabbed ...

FearlessFly comments on Jul 30, 2020:

"there were people there" . . . kinda like when Europeans conquered North/South America(s). :O :P . . . not bragging, just sayin'

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 30, 2020:

Yeah. We invaded and committed genocide too. "Never again!" is supposed to mean for anyone.

Why It Matters That Seth Rogen Spoke Out Against Israel BY HADAS THIER Seth Rogen grabbed ...

RoboGraham comments on Jul 30, 2020:

It sickens me that my government supports Israel as they viciously oppress the palestinians and keep them in open air prisons in their own land. It is shameful

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 30, 2020:

I've often commented that if Chosanistan had to do all that murder and oppression on their own dime, they might just cut back a bit.

An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field.

Cutiebeauty comments on Jul 29, 2020:

Sounds about right. ☺

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 29, 2020:

@Cutiebeauty - “Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.” ~ Douglas Adams

Leo Kottke - Up Tempo [m.youtube.com]

chalupacabre comments on Jul 29, 2020:

He's become of my faves.

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 29, 2020:

King of the twelve string.

"God exist whether or not men may choose to believe in Him.

Marionville comments on Jul 29, 2020:

Tom Stoppard says....Atheism is a crutch for those who cannot bear the reality of god....whereas I’ve always maintained that Religion is a crutch for those who cannot bear the reality of life. As for CS Lewis...his quotations are too convoluted and long-winded to even bother trying to penetrate ...

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 29, 2020:

Reminds me of this quote. 😄 "Imagination is for turbo-nerds who can't handle how kick-butt reality is!" Finn the Human - Adventure Time https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=113yv-Kdy7I

"God exist whether or not men may choose to believe in Him.

Marionville comments on Jul 29, 2020:

Tom Stoppard says....Atheism is a crutch for those who cannot bear the reality of god....whereas I’ve always maintained that Religion is a crutch for those who cannot bear the reality of life. As for CS Lewis...his quotations are too convoluted and long-winded to even bother trying to penetrate ...

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 29, 2020:

I wonder if Stoppard was being ironic. I always thought "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead" was masterful.

"God exist whether or not men may choose to believe in Him.

Fernapple comments on Jul 29, 2020:

Sorry it got boring after the ten or twelve, but I have to wonder if it ever occurred to them, that the W. Churchill which comes second, could apply even more strongly to believers.

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 29, 2020:

I like looking at some of the names they cite. I also notice how somewhat colloquial uses of God are still listed as if it supports their views (Galileo for instance). I used to read C.S. Lewis on the recommendation of believers. In his book "The Problem of Pain" he posits that since animals don't have souls in need of the "refinement" a human being does, that any pain, distress, or terror they exhibit is merely God making it appear so, much like a clockwork orange. F that psychotic POS.

"All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 29, 2020:

My question is, where are these people coming from, that will attack their fellow citizen without good reason? This mindset did not happen over night!

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 29, 2020:

I think of them as a version of *kapo*. They don't need to be at the top of the foodchain, just able to abuse those below in service of those allowing them those powers.

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Freedompath comments on Jul 29, 2020:

That is powerful! Who can trust a god like that? Who?

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 29, 2020:

I get most exasperated with believers who defend our often capriciously cruel reality with the only one possible for an omnibenevolent, omnipotent diety to create. I reply that a slow 5 year old could create a more just and compassionate world. They say they'd wish for you to eat ice cream and candy all the time. I counter that they could also wish for it to be healthy for you.

If hate could be turned into electricity, it would light up the whole world. ― Nikola Tesla

Robecology comments on Jul 28, 2020:

Here's my favorite meme on hate...

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 29, 2020:

There's a version of that where "religion" is the gas tube supplying the Bunsen burner.

"God exist whether or not men may choose to believe in Him.

Babyoda comments on Jul 28, 2020:

I put a thumbs up for the link not the quote,I enjoyed reading them.

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 28, 2020:

Yeah, it's the reason for my "sophistry" comment. These folks really feel their quotes "prove" their God's existence.

Yet another guy on Match checked out when I brought up core values. Too much, too soon?

WilliamCharles comments on Jul 28, 2020:

Interesting question. I'm helping out a theist FB friend by letting her rent a room at my place. She knows I'm atheist and I'm learning about her hodgepodge of Unitarian views, but it came to a point where she felt like I was bullying her with my unbelief. Nothing of the sort was taking place but it...

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 28, 2020:

@UUNJ - this addresses at least some of my understanding of the schism, though I would say my being the final arbiter on any of this would like me ruling on how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. https://beginningwisdom.org/answering-unitarian-arguments-5-the-argument-from-history/

Yet another guy on Match checked out when I brought up core values. Too much, too soon?

WilliamCharles comments on Jul 28, 2020:

Interesting question. I'm helping out a theist FB friend by letting her rent a room at my place. She knows I'm atheist and I'm learning about her hodgepodge of Unitarian views, but it came to a point where she felt like I was bullying her with my unbelief. Nothing of the sort was taking place but it...

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 28, 2020:

@UUNJ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RqqLYYwEC84

I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some thinking, feeling, remembering ...

WilliamCharles comments on Jul 28, 2020:

"They say you die twice. One time when you stop breathing and a second time, a bit later on, when somebody says your name for the last time." ~ Banksy

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 28, 2020:

@freeofgod - often, restatements of various maxims are treated as original.

This post is to welcome new chums to the g:1151 group.

FrayedBear comments on Jul 28, 2020:

Welcome to @WilliamCharles, @TeresaWyckoff and @StarvingArtist. 29&30/07/2020. Please come in, pull your chair up to the fire, fan or aircon, depending on the season & your proclivities, remembering to keep your healthy metre & a half away from each other, wear your virtual mask on the internet, ...

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 28, 2020:

Is the group for those who have gotten the virus? I have not been tested and am unlikely to have it (though obviously not impossible). I mask up, keep my distance as needed, and largely shelter in place.

Yet another guy on Match checked out when I brought up core values. Too much, too soon?

WilliamCharles comments on Jul 28, 2020:

Interesting question. I'm helping out a theist FB friend by letting her rent a room at my place. She knows I'm atheist and I'm learning about her hodgepodge of Unitarian views, but it came to a point where she felt like I was bullying her with my unbelief. Nothing of the sort was taking place but it...

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 28, 2020:

@UUNJ - Well, in my inquiries into the details of her godview, I learned she doesn't consider Jesus God. I categorized it as Unitarian (whether accurate or not I'm not exactly sure). She'd bring up the Council of Nicea and Emperor Constantine thinking I was unfamiliar with it, and I'd mention how Trinitarians largely rose to prominence by the murder of Unitarians as they were formalizing doctrines. Her confidence in her take on the whole of Christianity is, she says, from her reading the source material and coming away with the proper interpretations. Matt Dillahunty has a great lecture on understanding other people's godview that she refuses to check out that I explained largely mirrored my own approach (I'll link in another comment). Any thoughts on either of our assertions?

The man in the sky. [m.youtube.com]

barjoe comments on Jul 28, 2020:

Fuck the man in the sky. If he truly existed I'd hate him.

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 28, 2020:

"If there is a God, he is a malign thug." Claimed by some to be Mark Twain, but apocryphal. https://quoteinvestigator.com/2019/02/23/thug/

I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some thinking, feeling, remembering ...

WilliamCharles comments on Jul 28, 2020:

A classic Sagan quote. The full quote is as follows - “I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some thinking, feeling, remembering part of me will continue. But as much as I want to believe that, and despite the ancient and worldwide cultural traditions that assert an...

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 28, 2020:

The reason I like posting the truncated quote most often is that it's generic, and as such I feel has the most impact. I love Sagan's full version talking about his love for Annie, his kids, and wanting to be around for what is to come, but for getting the main point across to believers, the stripped down version cuts to the chase.

I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some thinking, feeling, remembering ...

WilliamCharles comments on Jul 28, 2020:

A classic Sagan quote. The full quote is as follows - “I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some thinking, feeling, remembering part of me will continue. But as much as I want to believe that, and despite the ancient and worldwide cultural traditions that assert an...

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 28, 2020:

My favorite version of the quote is in this configuration. “I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some thinking, feeling, remembering part of me will continue. But as much as I want to believe that, and despite the ancient and worldwide cultural traditions that assert an afterlife, I know of nothing to suggest that it is more than wishful thinking. [... ] The world is so exquisite, with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. Far better, it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look Death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.” ― Carl Sagan, Billions & Billions: Thoughts on Life and Death at the Brink of the Millennium

Last of the Mohicans - Jenny O'Connor [m.youtube.com]

LucyLoohoo comments on Jul 27, 2020:

Ahhh...she's great! Takes a magnificent film score, puts on a gypsy skirt and takes us all on a mental journey! Thanks for this! A very fine arrangement, too!

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 28, 2020:

Glad you enjoyed it.

Last of the Mohicans - Jenny O'Connor [m.youtube.com]

Lilac-JadeCanada comments on Jul 27, 2020:

Really good.

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 27, 2020:

I thought so too, Lilac-Jade. One of the serendipitous finds I came across by accident. It occurred to me wondering if some might consider the costumes worn by the group as "cultural appropriation" as people are getting really silly with that (or the song itself even).

Hi everyone! New member here.

WilliamCharles comments on Jul 23, 2020:

I recommend my friend's book which has much insight into that I feel. Growing Up Godless by Deborah Mitchell

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 25, 2020:

"I see a pattern where the randomness of human actions can be directed through probability for an overall cumulative and positive effect. All throughout our society there is a butterfly effect that we are most always oblivious to… I guess my message is to go boldly forth and increase the peace and love and know you are not alone. You may not always be aware of the others choosing to follow this same path as you, but they’re out there, and they’re making a difference.” ~ LanceThruster [from Debbie Mitchell's book "Growing Up Godless" - Sterling Publishing Co., Inc.]

Mercenary Goon Squads

barjoe comments on Jul 24, 2020:

That's sort of what they are but they're not mercenaries. They are government secret police. Worse.

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 24, 2020:

It is my understanding that a DHS spokesperson indicated they were private contractors. Written about a recent "deployment." :-----: **Bill Barr’s New “Troops” In D.C. Look Like An Awful Lot Like Erik Prince’s Blackwater Goons** By Denis Elliott -June 6, 2020 https://politizoom.com/2020/06/06/bill-barrs-new-troops-in-d-c-look-like-an-awful-lot-like-erik-princes-blackwater-goons/

Mercenary Goon Squads

barjoe comments on Jul 24, 2020:

That's sort of what they are but they're not mercenaries. They are government secret police. Worse.

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 24, 2020:

My understanding is that they are Erik Prince's private contractors. In my book, that makes them mercs.

It appears we are in a crisis.

barjoe comments on Jul 24, 2020:

It's not any kind of crisis that we have to worry about since all of us will be dead in the blink of an eye and we won't matter in two blinks.

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 24, 2020:

I like how it was explained that in the world of cosmology and theoretical physics, something can be elevated from a "problem" to a "crisis" by how it impacts previous models and understandings.

Not all heroes wear capes.

linxminx comments on Jul 20, 2020:

Oh good....because we wouldn't want to distract from the protest's important message. HUGE eyeroll for this amazingly stupid female who selfishly did this to get attention to herself and away from the purpose of the protest. Bad form sweetheart...bad form.

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 23, 2020:

@Grecio - her value is she's out there, as are those wearing clothes. A person not as in shape might have not gotten the same press, but may have flustered the mercs just the same.

Hi everyone! New member here.

WilliamCharles comments on Jul 23, 2020:

Btw, being involved with your local Americans United for Separation of Church and State chapter is a great way to interact with believers and non alike working together for a shared goal.

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 23, 2020:

Plus, specific to the faith system you came out of, a survivors group (online and then get some local recs maybe) would be quite empowering I think, regardless to what degree you felt your own mistreatment was. I'm sure you could help others, and learn of their accounts that put your experience into greater perspective. I have always found these people (you included) quite courageous, particularly as I came from a nominal Catholic background and had no real issues walking away from it, family included. Had some lovely JW neighbors (an interracial couple with adorable kids). Knowing some of the abuses within that organization meant that I would certainly not want to be too candid with my own views in that regard. I was once bike riding in the neighborhood with their kids and mistakenly asked if they were excited about Halloween coming up (I know better but forgot). They said they don't do it, and I said that's fine because that's how your parents want it. The little boy told me in all seriousness that I should join their church. I politely declined and simply said I have a different view of how things work and left it at that. I'm friendly with all the kids and can tell they get a bit bored with their faith lessons. I also get a vibe that the only son is being taught he has a higher status than his sisters because of the way he bosses them around including the older sister, but I could be mistaken.

Satanists Launch “Devil’s Advocate” Scholarship For People Who Hated School | Hemant Mehta | ...

WilliamCharles comments on Jul 23, 2020:

I have a Xian acquaintance who insists that the Satanic Temple's humanist leaning commandments are just cover for their truly evil agenda (promoting alignment with dark forces in defiance of God). I have no idea how to respond to it. My exclamations of, "That's just crazy talk!," should cover it,...

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 23, 2020:

And it's not that I disbelieve her account of what happened going to meet Anton LaVey at their church, but the hoodoo voodoo they threw at her and her friend was about as truly Satanic as any heavy metal album cover.

Hi everyone! New member here.

WilliamCharles comments on Jul 23, 2020:

I recommend my friend's book which has much insight into that I feel. Growing Up Godless by Deborah Mitchell

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 23, 2020:

I'm even quoted in it in her conclusion. https://www.nlb.gov.sg/biblio/200774666

Not all heroes wear capes.

linxminx comments on Jul 20, 2020:

Oh good....because we wouldn't want to distract from the protest's important message. HUGE eyeroll for this amazingly stupid female who selfishly did this to get attention to herself and away from the purpose of the protest. Bad form sweetheart...bad form.

WilliamCharles replies on Jul 22, 2020:

@linxminx - a thought comes to mind re: your statement of using nudity to sway votes... it just isn't done in public.