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Do you believe that we have souls? If so, can you answer why?

AccursedHalo 6 Dec 27
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No we don’t. Our consciousness is just the result of chemical and electrical impulses in our brains. Once the body-and brain-dies, so does consciousness.

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It depends on how soul or spirit is defined.
If it is like how when someone dies in a movie, and you see their spirit leave their body, then no, I don't believe in that.

But in anime or cartoons how the spirit leaves the body when they get hurt is really funny tho! Lmaooo

@AccursedHalo yea i love how anime portrays it
Lol watching some now

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What's a soul? I "believe" that there's more to us than what we are, but what does that mean?

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I should offer my own words, but Harris is so concise and eloquent on the subject, I had to just quote him. If you haven't read Letter to a Christian Nation yet, stop farting around on this site and go read it now.

"A three-day-old human embryo is a collection of 150 cells called a blastocyst. There are, for the sake of comparison, more than 100,000 cells in the brain of a fly. If our concern is about suffering in this universe, it is rather obvious that we should be more concerned about killing flies than about killing three-day-old human embryos… Many people will argue that the difference between a fly and a three-day-old human embryo is that a three-day-old human embryo is a potential human being. Every cell in your body, given the right manipulations, every cell with a nucleus is now a potential human being. Every time you scratch your nose, you’ve committed a holocaust of potential human beings… Let’s say we grant it that every three-day-old human embryo has a soul worthy of our moral concern. First of all, embryos at this stage can split into identical twins. Is this a case of one soul splitting into two souls? Embryos at this stage can fuse into a chimera. What has happened to the extra human soul in such a case? This is intellectually indefensible, but it’s morally indefensible given that these notions really are prolonging scarcely endurable misery of tens of millions of human beings, and because of the respect we accord religious faith, we can’t have this dialogue in the way that we should. I submit to you that if you think the interests of a three-day-old blastocyst trump the interests of a little girl with spinal cord injuries or a person with full-body burns, your moral intuitions have been obscured by religious metaphysics."

-Sam Harris, Letter to a Christian Nation

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Yes, I do. Yet my concept of what a soul is, what does it do and where does it reside is a little bit different than what most religions teach.

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It may be our residual star dust energy develops a collective unconsciousness?

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I cannot say for certain but it doesn't look likely. Having said that, my atoms become new things, and this is spiritual for me, so if a soul is a spirit, then perhaps the new organization of atoms is like me in some insignificant way.

If that's true, you're just millions of other people and things...

If you mean that our bodies undergo continual change throughout our lifetime, I would agree. The river may look the same but we never step into the same river twice according to Heraclitus

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No. If I had a soul, I'd have traded it for something more useful by now.

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I don't really know. I've reached a mindset where scientific and spiritual understanding run parallel at times. We can break everything down into human measurements and patterns and scientific theories and laws but it doesn't take the wonder out of it for me. So as far souls go... I don't think, if they exist, that most people have them. In which case it could be a matter of higher consciousness and potency (specifically in regards to something like reincarnation). But take away a certain chemical or part of the brain, and you have a completely different person, so... I think when I die I just won't exist anymore. Just whatever unconscious energy I carry that will return to everything.

Cwen Level 4 Dec 27, 2017

It just sucks to think all of this is for nothing.

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Are you talking about the missing 21 grams from a dead body? Never was quite sure if that measurement was accurate. It could have unexplained physics like when a room is dark the air in it is more dense. Or what you see is not light but the refraction of an object the light bounces off. You never see light only refraction. If you never see light how can it have a speed? Just like time if it is not measured does it actually exist? Energy has a weight just to weigh it is absurd. So 21 grams could just be the half life of the last drop of energy has changed into some other form. Just a perception in realy.

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Yes I have two. One on the bottom of each of the shoes I'm wearing right now. And one of them is holly. See, there is the hole right there. Oh Wait ! I have lots of shoes, and all have soles. But they are their soles, but they are my shoes. Does that count?

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No. I mean, my understanding the definition is that it’s a consciousness hat persists after death. Our consciousness, who we are, can be obliterated by Alzheimer’s...that to me indicates our consciousness resides in the brain and upon brain death, ceases to exist. The energy animating us carries no consciousness of its own...

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No i do not, i believe when im dead im dead...

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It's a religious word like heaven / hell / evil / spirit / angel ect .

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I'm glad to see reasonable answers here. I have heard so many people ask "you don't believe in heaven? Where do you think we go when we die?" To me, that is someone who hasn't given it much thought at all. How can you go anywhere when you are dead?

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To me it seems that most Christians view the soul as something separate from the body, and leaves the body when a person dies. In that sense, I don't believe there is any soul, given what we know about how brain and body chemistry affects thinking, emotion and behavior. When our bodies die, we die completely.

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This is my humble opinion... I believe those individuals that have an out of body experience... I myself saw me sleeping I was like 6 to 8 feet over me. Scared me. There is a "believe" that people that died in their sleep for no apparent reason is that their soul left the body and was unable to return... if that is the case the soul is needed for our life as we know it. I know it could be simple church and religion hogwash to slave us in their fear for our soul. I also believe in spirits entering and leaving our bodies, they just don't stay... heroic acts beyond comprehension... incredible performances could be another reason. I am not an expert. I did while in college in a class and experiment conducing to "us" or our soul leaving our body. Started with laying down on the floor and relaxing the whole body to the point that I could feel my blood flow and my heart pumping blood in all my veins. Not everyone was able to feel that blood flow but I was not the only one. That is as far as she took us but when you can feel your heart pumping and that blood running thru your body you either get scare or believe in god... I choose to get scared. My opinion... not a value or fact. a part of me believe in reincarnation too and the meaning of old souls and new souls. You can tell that I don't know the answer to the question.

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connection between neurons that contain memories .. is ur soul .. the way they emerged from the beginning till the end .. that makes you who you are .. well some say it will be gone when u die .. some say by law of thermodynamic nothing will be gone it will just change to another form of energy

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I believe this has soul.

Duke Level 8 Dec 27, 2017
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No. I think we have personalities.

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I've never seen evidence of such a thing, just wishful thinking.

Gener Level 5 Dec 27, 2017
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I think I'd need a clear definition of "soul" to properly answer this. Some people use it metaphorically, others mean the sentient quality, and still others refer to a metaphysical, immaterial, immortal substance. I have no problem with metaphor, but see no reason to refer to sentience as "the soul." And in terms of metaphysics, I see it as fine for thought experiments in philosophical discussion, but I don't accept the claim that it's somehow who we are now and eternally. I see no indication it's true or that anyone should take the claim seriously.

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As much as we desire it to be so. Its like before you were born. You didn't exist, knew nothing and felt nothing. There will never be another like you.

How do you know that you didn't exist before you were born? The only reason we're capable of perceiving this existence is because of our brain. Energy is only transformed never destroyed.

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I don't know if we have "souls". I really hope that when my body quits, my mind/personality quits, too. It would give me great peace if I could be assured that when I'm gone, I am gone. Who knows. What matters is that we try to live decent lives. Just be honest, ethical and decent.

SKH78 Level 8 Dec 27, 2017
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To believe that you have a soul is to accept a greater reality, one not bound by materialism. This belief doesn't have to include religion at all. But to accept that you have a soul, in the Atheist community is to be excommunicated.

It's been my experience that we are souls. That we have experience of multiple lives. There is one lesson that I learned in all of this and anyone can do is to don't hold grudges for they last far beyond your current life. You could be holding a grudge against someone right now and you have no memory of it. So learn forgiveness, and move forward.
The the books that I recommend are...

Science and the Afterlife Experience: Evidence for the Immortality of Consciousness
by Christopher David Carter,

At the Hour of Death
by Karlis Osis

You have now been excommunicated πŸ˜›

I second the motion.

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