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Episode 3 of "Stupid things Christians say to me"

A coworker and I were discussing the circumstances that had resulted in another employee being escorted out of the facility and told to not come back.

I mentioned that she had been inappropriate with me as well on an occasion related to her trying to force religion on me.
I made the statement, "She just couldn't understand that I could be a good person without "god" and didn't need the hocus pocus.

My coworker said, "Well it isn't about being a good person it is about believing."

She is christian so I said, "so being a christian isn't about being a good person?"

Her answer was, "No, anybody can be a good person but to get into heaven you have to believe in god. It is about having faith in something you can't see."

Uhm....
Yeah, I just had to walk away on that one.

Crimson67 8 Aug 17
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I wouldn't advise getting into it at work, but just watched Matt Dillahunty on "Atheist Experience" give an excellent response to this. Essentially, it was, why do you have to have faith? In the OT, Yahweh showed himself, both physically to some, and by signs and miracles to the masses. He even hardend Pharos heart so he could 1) subjugate free will and 2) show off his awesome powers of blights. So why did the playbook change? Why was it ok to not rely on faith then, but now it's required? The woman who called in was quiet for about 5 seconds and finally responded with something along the lines of, "Hmmm, that's a good question. I don't know." LOL - yea, one of the main tenants of your religion and you never thought to examine the logic behind the beliefs. Honestly, not surprising though...

I think he later started talking about the hypothetical Hitler accepted Jesus right before dying, but a good person devoted their life to peace and helping others, yet Hitler gets to heaven and the good person goes to hell. Where is the logic, love, or justice in that? Again, you could actually hear the rusted gears in her head trying to turn!

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Best not to engage. Faith is not rational.

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Yeah I feel ya. I had some guys try to convert me in college, cupping their hands and asking if I believed what they had in their hands. I said let me see it. They said, no you have to believe. I finally said ok, I believe now let me see it and they said, no, if you believe we don't have to show you. It's dizzying. It's ok, I'm going to Bora Bora when I die-you can come with me.

lerlo Level 8 Aug 17, 2018
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Ri-i-i-i-ght ....

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Punctuated with a yeah right

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Facts generally mean nothing to believers, however these facts help shed light on ignorance.

  1. Judaism does not believe in hell. Hell is a catholic invention 1st century AD

  2. In Judaism there exist 7 levels to heaven, at least this how the concept was created. I should say the 9 orders of Angels live in the 7 spheres of heaven, with one Angel Azazel chained to a rock in the bottomless pit. The Angels that fell live in 3rd sphere of Heaven.

  3. The German term God traces it's etymological roots to the Latin term Deus, from the Greek term Zeus.

  4. Adam in Hebrew means man.

  5. The tree of life means your linage

Etre Level 7 Aug 17, 2018
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"Wouldn't it be funny if I went and you didn't and I got to wave to you as I ascended?"

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Man, you missed the perfect opportunity to sell her some magic beans in exchange for her cow. lol

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Most have no idea what they believe. It changes depending on the given circumstances.

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Ugh. I’ve have had several run ins like this over the years. People say the stupidiest things and wonder why you sit there staring at them after they unleash something like this. By her logic you could be ‘saved’ and torture kittens in your basement every night and still make it into heaven. And if a believer murders someone do they still end up in heaven ? For a supposedly narrow road that leads to salvation it sure it easy to get it. Just believe !!!!! Ugh ugh.

Ohub Level 7 Aug 17, 2018
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Yep, you can be the shittiest person, abusive, lying, cheating or Trump, and as long as you have faith that your invisible friend is real you get a ticket to wonderland when you kick the bucket. You can be the greatest person, charitable, family oriented, caring but not believe and sorry, no ticket for you! This disturbs me.... Not at all. I tell those who threaten me with hell that it has the same fear factor as telling me I am getting nothing from Santa ? for Christmas.

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I've discussed various bible topics with my christian mother. It seems to her that the book is true simply because it's old and cannot be disclaimed.
I respond with the fact that many momentus events are recorded throughout history by more than one source and can be substantiated that way. The bible cannot boast this.

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You have a lifetime’s job ahead of you if you are intending to catalogue ALL the stupid things they say.

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She actually described Christianity fairly accurately!

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You should had escorted her behind the woodshed and show her the other side of you that is not a good person. I had been challenged plenty of times in my life.

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Wow you can’t make this stuff up it’s too good.

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I can see how Twump got elected.

godef Level 7 Aug 17, 2018
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Um, wut?

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Like uncle George Takei would've said..... oh my !!

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What she said is definitely crazy, but it's exactly what Christianity is all about. She didn't lie.

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