Last night I was out with The Phoenix Atheists Meetup group at a local restaurant. Somebody walking by dropped a note on our table proving the existence of GOD, Asking us to look at our thumbprint and complete with references to bible verses. The note was last seen being used as a paper airplane.
I’m sure you all had a good laugh! He will need a better argument than that.
you should have called him on loud voice telling that you have the next Nobel winner with you.
Picked up your phone start entering on the website to "tell them" that this guy broke all the science and now can have 100% access to the almighty creator of fucking everything!!
Er, forgive me if I'm wrong BUT even Chimps, Great Apes and the humble Australian Kangaroos, etc, ALL have Thumb and Fingerprints just as do innumerable other animals, BUT, there are very few actual bible verses, in fact none to the best of my knowledge, that actually STATE that the Imaginary " Sky Daddy" endowed only humans with fingerprints AND since the states that WE all derived from ONE single Male ( Adam) and a Female, CLONED btw from the tissues of this original Male, then therefore and most logically WE would ALL have EXACTLY the same fingerprint pattern, DNA and numerous other MATCHING traits, would we not?
Surely sir, someone could have given that piece of garbage a far better use than making a paper airplane of it, perhaps using it to blow their nose before returning it to its point of origin could have been a little more apt and appropriate?
Besides that, Assumption WITHOUT Empirically PROVEN EVIDENCE is still mere Assumption anyway you wish to view it.
Nice try though but I prefer to get the Jesus Jockeys into a debate and watch they sweat and squirm as I turn the heat up on them BUT I am, after all a Life Long Atheist with A Doctorate in Theology and Comparative Modern Religions, something that true send shivers down their spine when I tell them that.
Identical twins don't share fingerprints.
Nobody felt there was anything to gain by talking to this person. I think he wanted a fight, we all wanted to enjoy ourselves.
@GeorgeRocheleau 100% correct on that one, but clones, which the mythological 'Eve' would have to have been, are exactly copies of the source from which the genetic material originated, right down to the DNA, and, if humans are ever cloned, the fingerprints.
Identical twins are derived from 1 single embryo that splits for some unknown reason during the regular stage of mitosis into two separate and identical embryos, whereas Paternal Twins accrual begin as 2 separate embryos from 2 separate ova fertilized individually and, unlike Identical Twins, each will have their own separate placenta.
I like the cut of your jib, sir.
I had it tailored.
I hope you all enjoyed a hearty laugh!
We did.
I don't want to sound like a dummy but what's the whole thumbprint thing about
i don't know and don't care.
You'll note that they didn't hang around for debate.
I would have held it up and asked if anyone wanted a good laugh.
Everyone read it, we laughed. Then we went back to the previous conversation.
You have an atheist meet up group. Lucky you.
Perks of living in a large city.
I couldn't see my thumbprint without glasses because God gave me shitty eyes that haven't lasted as well as the rest of me and science had to fix that.
Another thing that evolution has not brought up to god's standards. Our eyes are not as well-"designed" as some other animals. Intricate and perfect? Not.
I would have gone for origami, myself. Turn it into something beautiful.
It's amazing what some people call "proof". It's as if the word has ceased to have any meaning.
I don’t believe but I try to be respectful of the belief of others. I would not make a paper airplane of it.
I see your point and respect your opinion, but I do think a paper airplane is a more respectful use of the paper than the original note.
I agree with @thislife
I’m respectful of the beliefs of others until they approach me with some form of disrespect, and the note was certainly disrespectful. Once the zealots open that door, they’re fair game.
They were unsolicited, unwelcomed comments in the first place. If they were being respectful they would have kept their comments to themselves. You don't eavesdrop on others conversations, then invite yourself and give your opinion. That's just rude and aggressive.
@TheMiddleWay You're seriously comparing their unsolicited bullshit flyer to a child's drawing? Bad analogy.
Also, where is this awful place where it's "very common" for people in restaurants to go up to strangers who are minding their own business? Unless they're part of the restaurant staff, that isn't normal behavior.
@TheMiddleWay I don't need to ask a waiter. I've eaten at restaurants many times. Just because a place is public doesn't mean that people forget social norms. Interaction among parties happens, yes, but not at the Disney musical level you're suggesting. Also. approaching strangers in a restaurant unsolicited to challenge their beliefs doesn't qualify as friendly engagement. That's just bad manners.
@FutureFicus it would appear our ideas of disrespectful are different.
@AdorkableMe people are disrespectful in a multitude of ways. This might also be the least offensive. They are enthusiastic about their beliefs and want to share. It isn’t great perhaps but is well intended.
@misternatureboy I’m curious to know if returning in kind (that is with bad manners) in stead of a smile and a nod and the like, creates a kinder world or a more aggressive one.
@AdorkableMe Well said.
@TheMiddleWay "Minding my own business" doesn't mean being completely oblivious to my surroundings. I'm more observant than you seem to think.
This exchange now seems pointless and I have more interesting things to occupy my time with. You and I have different opinions re the aforementioned scenario. I'll leave it at that.
@Ingi The answer seems pretty obvious to me.
Were the paper soft enough I would have found another use for it.
Beat me to it...darn...
If it was hard, we could have folded it with lots of stiff sharp corners and stuck it, well, you can guess.
My mom used to tell me, "If you ever have to go through a depression, take paper and roll it between your hands till it gets soft enough to use". Lol! She knew this from experience.
You mean, you didn't all become believers !!??
Every one of us, it was amazing. hallelujah
So.... no conversions took place, then?
We all converted, every one of us. It was a miracle.
Today we all went door to door, handing out Watchtower magazines.
That's awesome. It is highly unfortunate that the people who accept the simple answers are the ones who think they know everything and feel that they can dictate how other should live their lives.