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I'm hoping that people here are more open minded than self described atheists.
after lurking & occasionally posting at an atheist site for a few months i found that most of them were engaging in group-think on almost every subject that came up. they didn't want any dissenters on any subject they all agreed on.
i don't believe in a personal god or an after life. the only thing i'm certain of is that nothing is certain.

callmedubious 8 Oct 10
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Group think. Sounds like someone is a little insecure. If you go into a group that shares a life defining belief rest assured they, as a "group", will hold similar views on many subjects. Tell us your views and defend them or quit sniveling.

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Great insightful answers to this post!

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I am quite open-minded. I believe that sometimes 1+1=4. Hey, my opinion on this matter is just as valid as any other opinions. After all, algebra is just a theory. How do you KNOW FOR SURE that you are right?

BTW, I welcome any contrary opinions on this. I hate to be engaged in "group-think."

That kind of openmindedness Goes too far for me. Perhaps read the works of Bertrand Russel?

@Denker
I think what I was making a clumsy attempt at is called "sarcasm." 🙂

I really don't think 1+1=2 is open to opinions, nor do I believe "algebra (in this case arithmetic really) is just a theory."

@Wellspring

I agree. It was a bad joke. 🙂 Not scientifically or epistemologically accurate at all.

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I've suggested before that some of these atheist are just as fervent in their beliefs as the most pious folk are. Almost like their own religion. Ironic to me.

I think you're creating equivalence over the wrong aspect. A strong belief based on evidence is not comparable to a strong belief based on wishful thinking. If I passionately believe the sun will rise tomorrow, it's not ironic that I think another is foolish because they also passionately believe it won't.

@Gareth
If wishful thinking were all I might agree with you. It seems that those atheists I refer to feel as if there is no explanation for something then it just doesn't matter. There is so much we still don't understand and cannot explain. Much we likely never will. For instance, to suggest death in this lifetime is the end just because they don't believe in something else doesn't make them right about it. But they sure act as if they are right about it, just as the most pious religious folk do.

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Evidence based thinking is pretty much the opposite of group thinking, that is, unless you have a group of evidence based thinkers together.

When looking at science, what the bulk of the research supports, and the scientific consensus of most experts, is more meaningful that a study of a lone person, especially if that person is not an expert int he field. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

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The only topics on which I have observed groupthink are the same ones that every other segment of society is guilty of practicing as well; mainly PC topics where any form of disagreement with mainstream view, even the semblance of disagreement, is met with open hostility and hatred. Other than that, I do not see what you're complaining about, unless you are referring to the fact that the overwhelming majority of members/commenters are skeptics, atheists, or agnostics; then, what would you expect from us on topics of religion, superstition, and the paranormal or supernatural? We are, by definition, a group of nonbelievers.

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To say "I don't believe in a personal god or an after life. the only thing i'm certain of is that nothing is certain" is not a particularly controversial position.at least not on this site.

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Maybe they aren't involved in group think. Maybe they're just right, and you're just wrong, and you don't like that.

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What Stephanie99 said.

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