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“Presidents should tell the truth, but sometimes they make mistakes. . . . At least Trump tells it like it is. Trump is a truth teller.”

Isn't the "truth" only what one perceives it to be? []

IAJO163 7 Nov 5

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Thanks everyone for noting my sarcasm! 🙂


Exactly, OB1 told Luke Skywalker the truth is a matter of your own perspective.

Would you like to by my snake oil?


A friend of mine told me a similar thing Saturday night. Everyone thinks they are right and they all have a different view, he said. I agree but that doesn't make any of them right. It only means that 100 people have 100 different views. Trump supporters want to reply to you like this. Sorry. Facts are facts and there are no alternative facts!


There has NEVER been a Politician born who has EVER told the Truth, only his/her often warped and distorted very convenient VERSION of it to suit the moment/circumstances.
One of the prime attributes for Politicians is being able to lie so convincingly that the audience actually BELIEVES it to be the truth.


Gee, truth.......easily manipulated or actual Truth? If you do not know the answer, I have a bridge to sell you!


no. facts are facts. there are no alternative facts. when trump says the washington post is fake news, he's lying. when he says an invasion of hostile terrorists are coming to our borders, he is lying. when he says some white supremacists are good people, he's lying.



He's no where close to a truth teller, he's a manipulator. The only truth he understands are economic.


How can you be atheist/antitheist/freethinker and even ask this question?

Trump does not "tell it like it is". He tells it how he thinks it will help him...he gives 0 fucks about truth.


"During a presidential campaign in which Donald Trump upended our baseline assumptions about politics and truth-telling, many asked what it would be like if someone so profoundly dishonest, who lied so easily, so shamelessly and so promiscuously actually became president."

truth - noun

  1. the quality or state of being true.
  2. that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.
  3. a fact or belief that is accepted as true.

No the truth is not just perception, it is first and foremost in accordance with fact or reality. Trump is a liar, and his supporters are willfully ignorant at best.


#3? A fact that is accepted as true?
Sorry, facts are facts whether you accept them or not.

@powder Actually #3 is part of the definition of "truth". To be honest I think that is the religious impact on truth as it even has "belief" in there.

@mattersauce you could be right there


And If You Believe That, I Have a Bridge to Sell You... in Brooklyn...

How Huge is it 😀


??? Just because he says whatever he wants or what people want to hear does not make it the truth. ??? Is this a joke? He blatantly lies about easily provable things all the time.

MsAl Level 7 Nov 5, 2018

No that view of truth called "relativism", and it is a marker of extremists on both the left and the right. If you hold extreme views especially without any evidence, the last defence is the resort to dismissing the need for evidence by siting relativism.

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