I want honest opinions and no fighting.
If you want to fight - make your own thread.
I just saw something really interesting in a group of mine on FB.
Someone didn't let a Vegan into a group because they don't feed their cat meat and they felt it was actual animal abuse.
Now biologically we can confirm that with those teeth - they are meant to eat meat. That would be their natural state.
Ethically we understand how Vegans would feel about it.
But I'd love to hear how other people regard this.
Because I was really surprised by how vehemently most people felt?
My understanding was always that you could supplement for the missing nutrients (which might not be best practice - but would work).
I'm not going to put up a poll - that would be too simplistic.
And really I want to know what you all think. I'm curious. I mean it's funny in a way - to see Atheists fighting about this? (Yup it's an Athiests FB group - they're nutty there too).
And apparently the person had some other flaws that were known so that might have been part of the denial as well - so don't think they're just all mean. They really aren't.
But they're all people with long term illness and they don't deal well with people being "woo" in any way.
Addendum: The person was not already a group member - this was an application to enter the group - so no name was ever mentioned. It's a FB thing.
It was not the only marker that said they might cause conflict either. And the group is for folks with medical issues - who are there for support and education. Conflict isn't good for them. So weeding out someone with those markers might be necessary.
to me that is the worst kind of anthropomorphism, as it is actually dangerous for the cat. Cats are cats, peeps are peeps.
does anyone else think it's a little hypocritical for a vegan to own a cat, since veganism is typically closely tied to animal rights, cruelty, and exploitation? BTW I could argue both ways logically, but it just feels hypocritical. ?
Even PETA would go haywire on that person. Carnivores eat meat. Cats need meat or they suffer. Someone wants to not eat meat, fine with me. Someone wants to smoke, away from me, fine as well. Why say those two seemingly unrelated ideas: a cat should eat meat and a child should not be exposed to second hand smoke, and both cannot take care of themselves.
To ASSume that because you are a vegan, therfore it must be right for all creatures, is the height of hubris, and actually deadly for a cat. So your "care & concern for all living things" will result in the painful death of that cat.
If this isn't the height of stupidity,..........
to me it is simple. it's a matter of consent. an animal cannot choose to be vegan, and a human who chooses something unnatural for the animal, as being vegan would be, the animal cannot say "hey wait a minute; i'm a carnivore!" it is as if the humans are trading the suffering of a cow for the suffering of a cat. quite frankly, i think making a human child eat strictly vegan is abusive. if an adult wants to make that decision for him/herself, that's one thing. making it for someone who has no choice is quite another thing, and i wouldn't be concerned about it if the decision were, say, only to serve organic food, or not to serve twinkies. but i have known vegans. well, i still know them. they're not vegans anymore. i'm not talking about just one couple or a friend or two. i mean it seemed to be all the rage among people i knew for a while. every single one of them got sick and had to go back to eating some kind of animal products. they didn't have to eat a steak a day, just some whole protein, fish or at least cheese and milk. they could not sustain their health being vegan. not a single one of them. by the way, not one of them made their kids eat vegan while they did. the kids ate normally. the kids stayed healthy.
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Cats are not meant to be vegans. Attempting to put them on a vegan diet can cause them serious illnesses. Imo it is putting your dogma above the well being of your pet. I don't believe in letting anything suffer for something as subjective as beliefs.
there is a theory called "food chain"...doesn't allow all beings a right to life...