Politics is just coffee table fodder. You're not going to change any of it.
I hope this clears up a handful of bickering-
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.Our Government is certainly run by psychopathic liars, and media manipulation along with the prison problem are in particular quite disturbing.
SpikeTalon
Level 9
Jan 7, 2023
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Sadly, I agree for the most part. Some people think the minor ebbs and flows in politics like the Democrats taking back the House is evidence of being able to change it. They don't agree with others that the Dems are part of the problem just as the Reps are. Each side believes their side is right and will get us back on the right track. It's a great system for keeping people in check while the rich get all the benefit. All the status quo people will call us crazy or stupid though and that THEY know what's best lol.....as the country pretty much remains the same in categories of politics where it counts the most.....for decades upon decades. They will ignore it though and act like their minor victories make a difference in the bigger picture.
Piece2YourPuzzle
Level 8
Feb 16, 2019
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Really? I guess you missed the Tea Party (Teatards) movement, and the most recent tRUMP movement. And you must have slept through the Obama administration. The only movement that has not started in modern times is the Progressive Movement. Progressives have everything they need to change this country, but the vision that they can.
JohnWay
Level 5
Feb 16, 2019
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Attitudes like yours keep people home on election day when we need them to get out and vote.
JordanMarsh
Level 4
Feb 16, 2019
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i don't even OWN a coffee table. and you're wrong anyway. politics is what you pay for a quart of milk or a gallon of gas, or whether your kid gets to go to a school that serves lunch or christian propaganda, or whether you get shot by a policeman while sitting on your own porch because your skin is the wrong color, or whether you're allowed to vote and whether your vote is counted, or whether your father, who served in the u.s. military with honors and has been living peacefully and productively in the community for half a century, gets deported back to a place he won't survive, or whether your local bridge crumbles and dumps you into the drink because the funds to keep it in good repair got allocated to something else, or whether you have to choose between feeding your kids or getting cancer treatment, or whether you have clean air, water and food, or whether you're homeless or not, or whether your neighbor's place of worship is vandalized because it's the wrong place of worship, or whether you are forbidden to run for office in seven states because you choose NOT to worship, or whether the planet is hospitable to humans and other species for a short time or a long time to come, or whether there should be substantially fewer butterflies in the americas because a delusional old man promised some desperate people a wall, or whether you can get married to the person you love if someone doesn't like that person's skin tone, gender, sexual orientation or age, or whether you can post stupid crap on social media or whether instead you would be censored not by the private entity that owns the medium, which is fine, but without fear of arrest. there's more but i think i've presented a long enough selection of random examples of what politics is. as for changing it, you used the wrong pronoun. you are not going to change any of it -- THAT is apparent. but maybe some of us are!
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genessa
Level 8
Feb 16, 2019
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That is activism.
Politics is the process of making decisions that apply to members of a group. It refers to achieving and exercising positions of governance—organized control over a human community, particularly a state. Wikipedia
@Skeezwazzle and your point is? that you know how to find wikipedia on the interwebs machine? there is no relationship between activism and politics? activism isn't part of politics? feh. your post can make people stop voting. that's a BAD thing. i stand by every thing i said.
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I think the boomers made their point and then sat back on their laurels and got apathetic. I think an educated citizenry can make a change. Course American citizenry and educated may be an oxymoron.
silverotter11
Level 9
Feb 16, 2019
2
i think you must not know many boomers, although even if you did it would be a small sample. i sure wish people would stop dumping on boomers. i take it personally, and i am not sitting around on my laurels, either.
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@genessa same with you-- I won't stoop to your level of shaming and put-downs.
best of luck-
Politics is the process of making decisions that apply to members of a group. It refers to achieving and exercising positions of governance—organized control over a human community, particularly a state. Wikipedia
@Skeezwazzle yes you said that before. i understand. you can read stuff off of a website. congratulations. i do not wish you the best of luck at all; if you're lucky, no one will vote. i have no use for you. go ahead and stoop. it makes no difference to me. i stand by everything i've said and against everything you've said.
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@genessa As a Jersey girl would say, get over yourself. You personally are not the problem, the broader issue is we ALL let this happen. ALL the people in America and the boomers are a part of and some of the oldest part of ALL the people. Nothing can change until the parts of the problem are recognized and dealt with.
@genessa, @Skeezwazzle It works best when all have a seat at the table and all are represented. I may be a bit of an idealist.
@genessa So sad that you've "no use" for me- 
@silverotter11 i should get over myself because i happened to have been born in a certain year? i have nothing to get over thanks. i'm not the one advising people not to vote. by slamming boomers you slam me; you get over YOURself please. identifying with a group that's being slammed isn't an ego thing. if you think it's everyone's fault, why slam boomers specifically? you didn't slam ALL the people. just boomers.
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@Skeezwazzle aww you're sad. aww. awww. and awww.
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@genessa Boomers actually lit the fire but some who let it go out. I am pleased to hear there is a boomer out there trying to keep the fire alive BUT WE GOT here with trump and the mess in WA DC by apathy and failing to get the fire alive. I have voted and worked and campaigned but how do you get people to fact check fox lies? How do you get the fire lit to make the changes we need to have happen to keep democracy alive?
Maybe this is just the sort of shit storm Skeezwazzle was hoping to ignite.
@silverotter11 i see what you're saying but i don't relate to the get-over-yourself thing, nor do i think that just because we GOT here it's all the boomers' fault. (it's not about me -- i am by NO means the only boomer trying to keep the fire alive.) meanwhile, i have no such confidence in skeez's motivations. i hope you're right about that but i can't think of a good motivation for discouraging people from voting. as for the fox followers... if i knew the answer i'd be on msnbc telling the world about it! but i don't. i don't even know if there IS an answer.
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@silverotter11 I don't see being an idealist as necessarily being a bad thing, regardless of many others on this site that I'm sure of would readily disagree, and you're right about everything working best when everyone is represented.
Feh! We changed much. We stopped a war. We desegregated the country. We gave women power over their own bodies. We brought down the Berlin Wall. We stopped Joe McCarthy. We changed in how we treat animals. We removed a corrupt & CROOKED president once before. We reduced the global poverty level. We legalised marriage for gay folks. We can legalize cannabis. We can give amnesty to non violent stoners. Yes we can. Si se puede! Poder de la hente`. Viva la causa!
Mooolah
Level 8
Feb 16, 2019
5
I agree! I try to avoid talking politics as much as possible. Too much negativity kills my spirit.
SleeplessInTexas
Level 8
Feb 16, 2019
4
You know what else will "kill your spirit"?
People who think they have the right to tell you how to live.
But hey, stick your head in the sand and pretend your spirit is fine.
@PalacinkyPDX Like I said I "try" not to talk about politics. Go back and read what I wrote.
I am a voter and I vote in EVERY election and have since I became eligible. As far as I can determine, the only way we can affect/effect politics in 'merca is by voting, as an activitist or become a candidate. Once a candidate is elected, an activist is one's only option. If there is any other options I would like to know.
I live in Texas and anytime I contact my congress person, I always receive a form letter essentially flippin' me off and telling me how great god and the GOP is and it will take care of things if we just pray hard enough and always vote conservative.
What's a person to do?
jlynn37
Level 8
Feb 16, 2019
4
If it made any difference they wouldn't let us do it - Mark Twain.
You know that computers are binary switches, right?
A person is to be active, find purpose & continue the unending struggle to preserve our Constitution for us , our posterity, & the world, in the face of this threat to it. Do not retreat, disengage or stay home. Vote, write, stand for freedom. Hire Kaepernick!
@Skeezwazzle funny, because clemens went ahead and kept doing it anyway. some people could profit by his example.
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I do think movies and tv has made enormous change in public opinions over the last 30 years, arguably far more than politics or other activism has. I think conservatives saw this influence coming, which is why they developed Fox News...which, as tv entertainment, has pushed back against what it perceives to be radical social change and attitudes.
If you do nothing, nothing happens.
ThisIsPatrick
Level 6
Feb 16, 2019
5
@PalacinkyPDX Sad but true.
Not with that attitude, you're not.
Apathy is what got Trump elected. Democrats who stayed home because they thought the election was sewn up and their vote didn't matter. Or people who thought, "They're all the same, all politicians are liars and crooks, nothing I do will change the system."
Well, maybe a vote for Hillary wouldn't have made the system better, but Trump has definitely made it worse.
Trump voters wanted "change" and they got it. I hope to hell this is the change they wanted.
Paul4747
Level 8
Feb 16, 2019
6
@goldenvalleyguy If you really believe that, you definitely should stay home on election day, please. Read a little history. That is not an intelligent statement.
@goldenvalleyguy Ignorance is bliss., except you don't sound blissful, just ignorant.
@goldenvalleyguy So glib. That is all you have. You might go back to school and raise your level of intelligence to just stupid. GEEZ!
@goldenvalleyguy You aren't smart and your not funny. Of course there is no such thing as a stupid funny person, so it is to be expected. 
@goldenvalleyguy I don't have it all figured out, but it is obvious you have nothing figured out.
@goldenvalleyguy You aren't getting to me at all. You aren't glib. funny, or intelligent. I keep hoping you might be entertaining, but alas, no.
@PalacinkyPDX true! and people like skeez promote apathy. "why bother?" is a compelling argument. one little post and who knows how many folks sigh and turn the tv up louder and have another beer. ugh.
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@goldenvalleyguy They say atheists are more intelligent than the average population. Thank you for disproving that myth.
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