I find it humorous and sad that when I do something such as an act of kindness ie: the other day I saw an elderly lady walking in Walmart with a hand basket and it was loaded down and she was getting a gallon of milk. I had a cart and only a loaf of bread so I offered to trade her my cart for th hand basket. She was happy and grateful. As I walked away a woman said It such a Christian thing to do. I usually just smile and go on as I don’t want to correct them (like I usually don’t correct someone when they say merry Christmas or happy Hanukkah). When I just smiled she asked where I went to church. I said “Thank you but I do not go to church. I do not believe in religion or deities.”
She then sneered and said she would pray for me to be a better person and find god.
I wanted to ask how my not believing in a god changed my goodness and my act of kindness that she commented on before to me being a bad person. But I believe in kindness and compassion and understanding and leading by example so being that way I try not to be confrontational or judgmental but that does not mean I won’t stand up as needed. And this was a time I felt that my example was better than biting back.
Just thought I would share. Again I find it funny and sad how having no religion makes one less good and acts less credible.
The most frustrating thing to me is that even if she'd accepted that you're a nonbeliever she still might not have interpreted it as you performing a kind act simply because you wanted to, but because god sent someone to her to assist her. It's like what was stated in one of the above comments: nonbelievers seem to automatically be labeled as assholes or bad people; people that wouldn't know right from wrong so it's hard for believers to comprehend that someone would do something good for goodness' sake.
This reminds me of so many debates I had online in the early 1980s (yes, there was an "online" even before the internet).
Christianity=moral, everything else (especially atheism)=immoral. The idea of doing the right thing because it's the right thing is alien to them. They believe the only reason to do the right thing is because an invisible, supernatural being will punish them if they don't. That's not moral behavior: that's just fear of getting caught.
So in my experience there is always this expectation that us nonreligious folk are assholes. I commend you for keeping your cool. Personally I like to respond by giving them a very sincere look and saying "Thank you. I appreciate your concern for my well being." Because when they say that they are either being sincere, in which case what's wrong with them praying for you? Or they are being snide and taking a jab at you. If the latter, that kind of sincere responce generally takes them off guard. If they follow up with "But you don't believe in God." Respond with "No, but you do. And you're willing to pray to him on my behalf. That's really heartwarming." Only catch is, you have to be sincere yourself. If they think you're being sarcastic it could just escalate things rather than defuse them.
I've had some conversations similar to that wherein I said something about them not being very christian and they responded with "you don't believe in god anyway" and my response was "but you do"
I don’t even know you and I’m Proud of how you handled this! You did a nice thing because it was the right thing and when someone tried to label it as a “Christian” act you gently told her, essentially, that you didn’t need god to tell you to be a good person. Good for you!
Just try to remember it’s the religion. If you were Jewish or even Muslim they’d be ok with that, but a non believer is worse than anything! It’s years of conditioning. She will die believing your not good. But her ignorance doesn’t matter, it’s just annoying!
Good for you. Sanctimonious behavior is learned through the church. She was just parroting dogma. I always take the high road in casual confrontaions like that. You spoke truth to a deluded person. It's her dilemma after that.
Well, you could have engaged in a little parting shot, so to speak. Something like this.
"I haven't found God, but I didn't see YOU giving anyone your trolley."
OK, that sounds quite childish. Also, yes, the British call it a trolley.
Wow! Way to throw a kind act right back in your face. What an ungrateful person. I hope she feels guilty now.
It was not the elderly lady that said those things but rather a third person that witnessed her act of kindness
@MeriMaat My bad! Was half asleep when I read the post.
Just another example of prejudice, you did the right thing and she made you out to be wrong just for being different from her
It is frustrating and of course god sends even the no believers to do his will. She will still believe that you were sent to her by god because she was so deserving.
Being a good person feels so nice, wondering what god wants must be exhausting!
But are they saying you are a good Christian? Or that your actions emulate the things a good Christian does? Maybe just a different way of interpreting it?
I never needed a god to tell me the right thing to do.
HI,Just a thought,you can say merry christmas.I had a problem with this before i became an athiest.The christians nicked it from the pagans.
Google it.I say it with pride now.The tree,the pezzies,the decorations,all hijacked.
I have a disabled child and was on the site that deals wilth hes disorder in the states.All that talked about was how god would help them.I got fed up and left the site.In the UK you wouldnt come across people like what you did.
Wow. Good self control. I would have retorted that I wanted my shopping cart back and that she could get one from a "Christian."
But probably not. I'm so transmale I'm hard wired to tolerate stuff from women without complaint.
it was a bystander that made those statements to her
@MeriMaat Ah. I didn't realize it was a different woman who insulted you. But I still would have said that to the other woman, or asked why, if she was such a great Christian, she didn't get the woman a shopping cart.
Fuck that. I would of gone and got my trolly back.
It was a third person that said those things to her not the elderly lady
oh I see my bad I do apologise.
yes lol, I would the nosey bitch.