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My husband says, google is his god, because it knows everything and always has an answer for his problem. Who can argue with that? When I read through the many post about people who say their agnostic I can’t help but notice they are referring to the written text they don’t believe in. While others are referring to the religious sector they don’t believe in. Some will say they don’t believe in the teachings of a god. A few will say they don’t believe in a god because of war, murder and all the injustice in the world. Very rarely will you find a post that will explain in the first person why they don’t believe in the existence of god. What are you referring to when you say your an agnostic?

Debbera 5 June 27
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I don’t generally ever say that I’m an agnostic by itself. I’m an agnostic atheist. Agnostic means without knowledge and atheist means without belief. I recognize that no one has complete information, but that’s no reason to believe anything for which I have no evidence. The burden of proof is on the person claiming the existence of something. There’s been no god described by any theistic religion that is remotely logically possible and no one has ever offered any credible evidence of the supernatural. If you think you have some get in contact with skeptical magician the Amazing Randy, he has a standing prize of 1,000,000 waiting for anyone who can.

So I can say 100% there is no god so far based on the knowledge humanity has, if you define the scope of god as “something omniscient, omnipotent, and benevolent as described by any theistic religion so far.” If your definition of god is much broader than that, I’m willing to hear it out, although if I come to agree in the existence of whatever you’re calling god I’d probably have to say your use of the word god is a generous, inaccurate, meaningless placeholder of a title, for lack of a better term.

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I'm an agnostic/atheist if you can deal with that. As a younger man I was tricked into believing in a god and I studied to be a Pentecostal minister. Wanting to know things, I studied much more than just the bible. I was in my 60's when it all rang true. There are no gods and no evidence of gods. There is no evidence that gods wrote you a book and told you what to do. No evidence of gods wanting to be in touch with you. The bible as we know it today came some 300 plus years after Jesus, who himself might be a composite of more than one man. Prophesy in the bible is contrived in order to make it fit the situation. Jesus is about as real as Zeus or Jupiter. You do not have or possess a "soul" and there is no proof that you are doing anything or going anywhere after death.

Do my beliefs scare me in any way? No, I'm more free right now that I have been in my whole life.

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Mostly "I detest Christians" i guess?

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I am an atheist because I have not seen evidence that supports the god(s) hypothesis, i.e. that they are real. I am an agnostic because I am not 100% sure that I am correct. Could there be some race of beings out there, somewhere in the universe that have evolved to a point that they would fit our description of a god? I'm not sure if we can ever clearly say "no." We can only claim that "we haven't found any evidence to support that statement yet." The evidence I have seen boils down to "I don't understand, therefore god," some sort of philosophical exercise that doesn't inform observable reality, or "I just feel that it's real" which is no evidence, only the same intuition that leads people to think a bowling ball will fall to the earth faster than a tennis ball when dropped under the same conditions.

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If there was an all powerful god that required worship he certainly would be powerful enough to make himself known. The question then would be what created the creator. Evolution explains our existence. These three premises are why Atheism is the best default position.

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I am of Freethought, a Freethinker if you will. I'm thinking that is most true of most Aagnostic.com.

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zblaze Level 7 June 28, 2019
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I like reading everyone's responses to this post. Very interesting conversation going on.

With that said, I consider myself to be an Agnostic Atheist. Agnostic because I feel that I could not prove nor disprove the existence of a deity or deities. However, the Agnosticism kicks in when I see—another poster has mentioned this in the comments and I gave it a thumbs up—poverty, mental illness, and other negative parts that exist in humanity. And if there is a god, then it is not one who cares about mankind. Therefore, it doesn't deserve any type of recognition anyway.

But yeah, the whole proof thing and that there are so many questions left unanswered is why I am more of an Atheist.

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I reference the lack of evidence. There is no compelling evidence that points to any god existing.

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There is little, if anything, we know at all in this life and this universe, with absolute, 100% certainty. Part of this is due to human fallibility and the fundamentally subjective nature of human knowledge and awareness. Therefore, we have to rely on probabilities, or what makes the most sense to believe.

Atheists or agnostics refer to God (or the concept of a god, or gods) when they assert what they believe, or don't know. That seems fairly clear to me. They are constantly saying why they don't believe in posts on here in the first person. I see that all the time.

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The Google thing is indeed tricky. I used to be a Mac guy; have been since the 80s. Now I'm a Google guy. I'm every bit as aware of the dangers of Google, but they give me what Apple does not -- all the online Google functions, Android phone, Google home, and I've just bought a Chromebook which was great value for money and fast as a rabbit. My expensive Mac died and I've had it with Apple and their over priced poorly made stuff. It's a whole set of integrated functions that I really like. But... but..I manage my Google account options carefully, and I use a private browser for most searching. I encourage others to do that also So, I exercise what control I can. God? No. But I cannot find a better alternative.

And I don't refer to myself as agnostic, but atheist. My reasons are quite clear and ultimately stem from a total lack of evidence, and a rejection of all mysticism, supernaturalism and magic.

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actually I'm an atheist..... i couldn't find an atheist site. lolol

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By not believing in the existence of God but not knowing if God exists or not. Taking the origin of the word literally. I don't accept what people say it's proof of existence or non-existence.

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The vast and wondrous unknown. "I do not know" is the beginning of knowledge.

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I highly doubt any god exists, but I'm open to actual evidence.

Liam Level 3 June 30, 2019
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I don't believe any gods exist, so I'm an atheist. The only reason I use the word agnostic is because no one can know for sure there isn't some god hiding behind Saturn or somewhere. The concept of god is impossible to falsify, so no one can know for 100 % sure there is no God of any kind. Most reasonable people don't believe in things without evidence showing it exists though. For example, there's also no way to prove leprechauns don't exist, but most reasonable people don't believe they do.

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I believe there is no God. It seems self-evident to me.

I’m not agnostic. I am as certain of the non-existence of god as the sun appearing to rise in the eastern sky tomorrow. One part of the definition of agnostic is the belief that nothing is known or can be known beyond material phenomena - and I don’t hold that belief. It seems to me our thoughts are non-material and ideas like kindness, neglect, justice, betrayal really exist, are knowable and non-material.

If I find myself in a discussion about atheism and/or agnosticism I usually trot out these arguments:

  1. I cannot prove to 100% certainty that there isn’t an elephant running loose in our city but the absence of frantic Facebook posts, piles of elephant poop, the lack of any circus being in town recently gives me enough evidence to make a determination.

  2. if God, by definition, is omnipresent then there is no way to prove existence because one would need to experience or know the condition of God not being there. To know if God exists the condition of not-God is required (i.e. if all the text on a page is bold how would you know? Contrast with non-bold text is required).

However, I have had what I consider to be spiritual experiences where I truly felt the knowledge of the implications of the reality of the interconnectedness and interdependence of all beings on the planet, especially the human ones (to whom I feel a great affinity). I’ve also had road rage and felt significantly less connected.

I see all religions as pretentious and superstitious nonsense sanctioning and requiring a shared obsessive compulsive disorder. They feel the need to believe that certain hand gestures or body postures will conjure or ward off spirits or judgement. The texts religions produce serve to justify the superstition and group OCD.

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I say I'm agnostic because I see no eveidence that proves or disproves the existence of a God. Once science is able to do either of these than that will change, I'll Either become an Atheist or Anti-diety because I certainly would want to worship a God that lets the worldnbe thebway it is.

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