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The biblical "god" is merely a manifestation of the violent, male-dominant, hunter-killer left brain. Women, generally, do not revel in war, rape, and genocide. "God" is NOT the problem. We MEN are.

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MoonTigerII 7 Aug 11
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If you study the Bible, you can read between the lines that the goal is to demonize and make women subservient. Women can incubate and give birth to another human being so have to denigrate that ability. The pain is punishment for their awful sin. Women are amazing creatures who can bleed copious amounts and not die. They aren’t magical but unclean so need to be segregated. Women are trophies, spoils of war, temptresses, and whores, not equal partners in life. Yes, men used a fictional sky daddy to control women and other men for their own benefit. This is still happening and it’s up to us to keep calling out the scam.

In the Koran, a dead man gets 72 virgins. A dead woman...gets her husband back. (It says nothing about how well she gets along with the 72 virgins.)

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wow, you are some self hating sexist trash. stop projecting your bullshit on half the population

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The overwhelming majority of human on human violence is by males. There are no female Ted Bundys. Virtually all of history's "Hitlers" have been male. This doesn't mean all men are evil, it means all men should acknowledge this and try to be part of the solution. Because not acknowledging it is part of the problem.

@codycody I said Ted Bundy's, not female serial killers. The guys who hunt and kill for psycho-sexual reasons. Guys who get off on rape and murder. The female serial killers are all black widow types, doing it for financial gain.

@codycody Very very very very few of them. My point was that the overwhelming majority of violence on the planet is committed by men.

@codycody False equivalency.

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The truth is, violence is much more likely to be executed by men than women. But I hesitate to come to the conclusion that "men are the problem." I'm not sure what the answers are to humanity's struggle but I doubt it lies wholly in the hands of one gender.

@jorj Thanks for pointing that out. I hadn't considered that on the topic of violence but I have noticed that with many other things. I think you may be right.

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I find it interesting to read the reactions of some men to this post. Although the poster has worded it as a generality only, and most reasonable people can see, that as generalities go, what he says is pretty accurate in its conclusions, the knee-jerk reactions are almost Pavlovian in certain males. Denial is part of the problem, recognition of the fact that, with a few notable female exceptions, wars are started, waged and fought by men. This has happened throughout human history, and saying it isn’t so doesn’t change that fact. Wars are usually about power and control, this may be in the guise of religion or protection or acquisition of territory, but powerful men are the ones who make the decisions to start them. Women do not rape and pillage in order to conquer or dominate, this is a purely male activity. None of these statements of fact means that I think that all men do these things, I’m sure most men find them as abhorrent as women, but again, it doesn’t change the facts that it is men who perpetrate these acts.

OK. Now let us move forward. The human race needs to completely review/appraise/change/adapt the way we relate to the rest of our planet and its inhabitants. Women were the ones who made decisive moves towards peace in NI and etc. Are we willing as a species to accept that the past and present ways of doing things are no longer viable? Do we have the collective humility to review our place in the world and cease to act in a human-centric way? If the answer is "Yes", where can each of us start? In view of the OP's emphasis on conflict, should we start here:
[caat.org.uk]

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In most ancient tribes/societies men protected territory and hunted because of physical advantages over women. Are you MoonTigerll saying women were not complicit in this situation?

My post is clear and concise.Each word has meaning. Read it 3 times if you must, to decypher it. Hint: the word GENERALLY has particular significance.

@MoonTigerII I will re-read your post when I have come to the conclusion that you are not just an aggressive, sarcastic narcissist.

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so true

djs64 Level 7 Aug 11, 2019
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Testosterone is a powerful drug that many guys can't handle.

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I have read all comments here. I am a 64 year deep historian and feminist with perhaps 6000 books and 100,000 magazine articles, lectures and documemtaries behind me... and NONE of you have taught me anything I did not already know about history. I stand by my post. Thanks for input, tho!

But SOOO many here have digressed so far off my topic or ignored it totally that it is rather amazing... and depressing. I am not adressing EMOTIONS or POLITICS... I am merely citing a vast STATISTICAL PREPONDERANCE.

Many of you are putting words in my mouth here. Don't DO that! My post is clear and concise. Each word has meaning. Read it 3 times if you must, to decypher it.

@TheMiddleWay. READ. EVERY. WORD. I. POST. There is a QUALIFIER that precedes.

@jorj. I remain a feminist until WORLDWIDE SEXUAL EQUALITY is achieved; which means it is very unlikely I will become a humanist this side of my grave. You are resting out of laziness, perhaps? Ignoring the vast inequalities? Most women are still treated as SUBhumans, not fully acknowledged self actualized humans. Has the Equal Rights Amendment been passed in America yet?

If you posted so that you could tell us how much smarter you are than all of us, I seriously doubt you really have anything of value to add to this topic. Intelligence can only inform you so far. Wisdom comes from listening to others in addition to thinking things through.

Yes! There has been great inequality through out mankind's womankind's history!

After the plague, the dark ages women became land owners and family heads out of the death of others!

The church and the kingdoms found ways to turn women into evil creatures to be exploited at any cost!

So your conclusion are spot on!

Contraception and the eduction of women has given them economic power that was never allowed to ferment in any numbers until the twentieth century!

I do realize you are fully aware of all of this!

So, you go women all the way!

no need to 'decipher' your stupidity, thanks lmfao. women are 100% equal to men in potential violence, opportunity is what they have lacked in history, not inclination r intent. gtfoh

How can you say that your post "merely cites statistical preponderance" with out citing a single statistic. Hears a question for you. How many books have you read if you don't count cook books?

@TheMiddleWay I READ that much, approximately. No one on Earth has WRITTEN that many books.

@MoonTigerII Concerning CAPS: There is a well established convention on social media that it is impolite to use caps the way you do. Your choice, of course.

You sound a little self centred dude, and appeal to (apparently, your own) authority.

I beg you, do not be unchangeable:
Do not believe that you alone can be right.
The man who thinks that,
The man who maintains that only he has the power
To reason correctly, the gift to speak, to soul––
A man like that, when you know him, turns out empty.

Sophocles

Okay, so let's assume that men are the problem. Did you study a large enough source population, or are you basing your conclusions from incomplete illustration, analysis, etc. . I want to double check if you're a sexist, or if you know the subject matter.

@DZhukovin What percentage of wars throughout history around the world were started and prosecuted by women? Is THAT a large enough source population for you? I have no time for nonsense, and denial of male culpability is total nonsense. It is not sexist... it is a cold hard fact of invariable statistics... probably the biggest megatrend in all of human culture.

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Not copping to any of this. I made my quota of wars, rape and genocide well before I was born.

So, you stopped paying taxes? Curious in Ohio. We are all enabling these motherfuckers.

@MoonTigerII Name one Canadian drone strike.

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Yup especially back then

bobwjr Level 10 Aug 12, 2019
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Fun fact, the whole “left-brain right-brain” dichotomy is an pop culture sensationalized version of what modern neuroscience actually shows. Both sides are involved in both logic and emotions and go about it different ways. The left brain is more detail oriented while the right brain is more “gist” oriented focusing on the main idea of a situation. In response to stress, men show more activity in the right side while women show more activity in the left. Furthermore, the two hemispheres show a lot of communication and subsequently have strong connections in female brand with little communication and weak connections in the male brain. This is why male response is a more “who what when where why” mentality while women tend to show more concern for the details, buildup, and fallout (I know this is stereotyping, but there are statistical trends showing some basis. Of course, these are merely TRENDS and not hard rules).
Overall, your argument still stands with the exception of replacing “left-brain” with “male brain” or “male neuroanatomy” or even just a simple “men abusing their power” since the previous two imply that they have no control over their actions due to an accident of biology.

I'm not sure about women being more left-brained. On the one hand, they are very focussed on nurture and on the other hand they can be very holistic, intuitive. That's the use of the two sides of the brain with, I think, some more emphasis on the left, more practical side. I'm going by my understanding of Iain McGilchrist's book The Master And His Emissary, a book I think you would enjoy if you haven't read it already.

Add to all that the neurons in one's heart and gut, and you've just totally fucked up the left brain/right brain dichotomy.

@brentan if your interested, Brain Rules by John Medina goes into a lot about neurology/psychology. He goes way more into than just male vs female brains.

@thezekroman I'll check it out!

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Things are as they are for reasons. Rather than judge the male half of humanity so harshly I’d prefer to understand why it is that the sexes are different.

Because of biology women are vitally necessary for the survival of any group. Therefore it falls to men to perform the most dangerous jobs. Obviously for nearly all of our existence hunting has been very necessary. As for war, competition and the protection of one’s home have been equally vital. Those tribes that failed at hunting and self-protection have left no descendants.

We are just what we are and it’s OK.

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Not all of us love the smell of napalm in the morning.

Used to make my eyes water.

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While your point is valid, it's not entirely accurate.

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All of us need to acknowledge that we each have the potential to contribute to the problem or to a solution (at least I hope that is true).

Somewhere I read that the base dieties of many religions was some sort of Father, Mother, and child combination. These three set the archetypes for human relationships. In Christianity, the trinity was Father, Son, and Holy Ghost which were/weren't one and the same. But the Mother and her influences were left out. Roman Catholics brought in Jesus' mother Mary, but she did not hold an equal status with the other 3.

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Obviously you have never heard the saying Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. They can be just as bad as any man and a lot of times they are the ones pushing the men’s buttons

Men are responsible for the majority of violence in the world. Insinuating that women may be the ones instigating that violence is basically the argument of every abusive man who has lived on the planet. "She deserved it because ____." I don't think the problems of this world are 100% men's fault but I also don't think the answers to those problems will be found the idea that women are responsible for men's outbursts.

@UpsideDownAgain Studies show that there are an equal number of men and female narcissist. The difference is that the men are more visible with it and women are better at hiding it. I was married to a narcissist and I bought the whole it's all mens fault until I discovered how a lot of women really are.

@abyers1970 I'm not sure how your comment is a response to what I said.

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men are real, they exist, god does not.

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Excuse me, sir. I am not a dominant hunter-killer. And it's pretty lonely out here for those of us who aren't.

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God in the Bible is really just a political "arm" in the modern day context. I would counter-argue that it is not men who are the problem, it's normal people because people in the normal distribution are the ones doing all the crime. Normal people are the idiots and the animals. Normal victims do not read their company, or think about what they do. Normal offenders are animalistic. They don't HAVE real mind, and they just sort of react, as this normal self, trying to get the means to compose its parts together to do the right thing.

But yeah, you're a sexist, just FYI.

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I think you are spot on.

Nuke Level 5 Aug 14, 2019
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I am getting a little tired of the "Woman good, man bad" mantra that is constantly preached. Women can be as mean, they can do as much harm to their spouses as men do, they can and do inflict severe emotional trauma on their fellow human beings. Stop putting them on a pedestal.

Until very recently (?) a man was praised if he went into war and killed effectively without being killed. Violence is a human problem, not specifically a male problem.

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God was created by humans it doesn't matter if it was man or woman god is still imaginary and should be treated the same way as Norse and Greek gods that have become mythology.

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God is still a problem, human men created it.

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Can’t really argue on any of that.

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Pretty much.

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